A good question…..and the answer is yes….not because of the issues but rather because the media does not want to gum up the system with more than two parties……and because the 2 parties do not want to relinquish their strangle hold on the political system.
This piece covers the history and the directions of the two Green Parties, Germany and USA…..(a historical perspective and thank you)
In countries like Germany, the Green Party wields real power. But in America, not so much.
Many Americans value environmental protection and want to see more of it. But Jill Stein, the Green Party presidential candidate, is drawing only 1 to 3 percent in recent polls, even in an election where many voters dislike the major candidates and are looking for alternatives.
Stein certainly has worked to differentiate herself from the two major party candidates. In July she asserted that electing Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton—probably the choice of most pro-environment voters—would “fan the flames of … right-wing extremism,” and be as bad as electing Donald Trump.
Source: Why Is the U.S. Green Party So Irrelevant? | New Republic
The media would have to actually report political news if there were more than the 2 parties…instead of driving the conversation and being used as a propaganda tool.
The system has kept the Green Party from its rightful place in American politics…..work must be done if we are to ever move past the domination of the wealthy in our politics….
Nothing irrelevant about the Green Party…..just worthless diatribes and recriminations by the political elites……
Do the country a favor and at least check out the party before you vote. The US deserves a party of the common people….Dems have long since relinquished that mantle……why not the Green Party-US?
Do NOT believe the hype…the Green Party is relevant and much needed.
Reblogged this on saywhatumean2say and commented:
OOooo I’m having a bad Thursday but really EVERYTHING is irrelevant depending on which side of what line you chose or happen to just BE just by chance standing on. I just “unsubscribed” (REALLY is that a word?) from my Bernie’s site….i mean who much money can i give?
The saddest words in my lexicon of lyrics ( the constabulary of a person) are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVUDdQS2UxA
JUST DON’T BLOCK UP THE HALL! ~~dru~~
I hope that people read the whole piece and see what I am saying…..thanx for the re-blog….chuq
Love to reblog you, some of your euriditness seems to wear off. Your teaching credentials are showing. Pull down your skirt.
(Said often to me by educators and never by boyz) ~~dru~~
I appreciate the kind words…..and I try to do what I can for understanding….chuq
It pisses me off to no end that we can’t get past this stupid Electoral College and “winner takes all” system. A small compromise would be to award electoral votes on an apportioned basis (I’m blanking where I read that yesterday). Germany has, when compared to the U.S., a more ideal form of a democracy; that is if you can call what the U.S. has right now an actual democracy. It’s more of a meritocracy or plutocracy. We’re seriously in trouble….
We have been in trouble for a century…..I have a piece on the electoral college from a few years ago…..
https://lobotero.com/2008/06/13/can-the-electoral-college-be-killed/
Plus I am working on yet another piece….should be ready soon….chuq
Petra Kelly and I were classmates at American University. She co-founded the Greens in Germany, if you recall. It was not a party of elites. The Green Party in the US was founded by wannabe elites and out of power elites who would, it turned out, never try to organize a grassroots party going house to house to elect local officials and gain local support. Not a whole lot different than many past 3rd parties in US. Feet on the street build strength and support, not coffees, teas, or wine tastings among out of influence old elites or wannabe elites. End of rant. Last successful 3rd party in US, the original Republicans of 1850s – RIP 1968.
Thanx for the heads up….chuq
Fear Nothing! If things continue on the way they have been going here in The United States the day will surely come when we have a hundred different political parties all fighting amongst themselves.
Doubtful……maybe a handful…..at least then Americans would actually have a choice…something they have not today….
A choice that could never achieve the majority needed to win. Imagine 5 or 6 parties suing each other in courts over the outcomes of elections …
That would be the American way….sue someone….it works in other countries without the bullshit of lawsuits….
I remember a book that came out back in the 1960s that seemed to have captured the imagination of Americans everywhere. The name of the book was “Sue The Bas*ards”
And look what we have….lawsuits because coffee is hot…..that seems to be the solution to every problem…..sue the bastards…
Unfortunately it has become the American Way.
Yep, always the easy way out
Going off topic for a second … do you like the green typeface on the black background I have installed?
I put an answer on your post….
Thanks Chuq!
Anytime…..
Can you tell me how the blog is “Busy” and I will see if I can do something else to make it better.
By “busy” I mean the eyes have too much to distract it from the content…keep in mind I am old fashion and like books…the printed page….so I may not be the best to ask….
Is the sidebar the problem? Maybe I can hide the sidebar if that is the problem.
Partly but I think it is the green that throws me…like I said…old fashion
Let’s try yellow and see how that works.
I will be AFK (away from keyboard) for awhile……I have a call to make overseas…..
O.K., see you later then.
I’m back…there seems to be a war going on and no one can talk right now….
Maybe you need to get yourself a short wave outfit and toss the phone.
No chance….can you imagine the crap you will have to jump through to get a license? The yellow on green is better
But is it best for your purposes? Also: With your background there must surely be a way for you to get your short wave license without a lot of hassle.
Maybe but I have enough hobbies…LOL
Also: Could you make use of the TOR network to speak to your contacts via the internet?
Internet is spotty at best in the region….
Understood but how about satellite phone?
Have one…too easily monitored…same with cel so why waste the money, right?
It’s a way to stay in touch I guess …
Did you go back to black and white on your blog or is mine messed up?
Went back to black and white — it seems to be everybody’s preferred format
It works great with my ancient eyes…LOL
LOL
Maybe a Party name change is in order. Say: The Freedom Fighter Party
Green people naturally associate with Environmental issues only.
It would be something to consider….
No political party is ever irrelevant unless and until it gains enough public censure or unless the Congress outlaws it.
Here’s what I notice as the key difference between the biggest third parties like the Green Party and the two big parties: county organizations. You literally have to have chapters in every county of this country in order to be competitive in not just ballot access and the popular vote, but also the Electoral College. The Greens and Libertarians have enough state and county chapters to be persistent and relevant between presidential-year news cycles, but not enough to break over that 1% popular vote share like Nader 2000 and Perot 1992 did.
The Dems and GOP built their organizations over a multitude of generations since the mid-1800s, building their parties from the ground up and meaning different ideologies to different regions in order to stay in power. The Greens and Libertarians have built theirs up, and the next four years offer an opportunity to build themselves up even more in every county of the country.
Thanx for the visit and the comment…always a pleasure to have new visitors…..the 2 party system has made the alternatives very expensive in some states like mine….to reister a party there needs to be a “filing” fee of $5000…not so if I ran as a Dem or a Repub…eliminate that obstacle and I think 3rd parties could prosper….chuq
Yes, and there has long been collusion between Dems and the GOP to keep this high barrier. It’s high where I live in Georgia, and a Facebook friend who is co-chair of the Georgia Green Party found it difficult to get enough valid signatures to get Jill Stein on the ballot by the deadline. A lot of this dates back to when the Dems were the conservative, segregationist party who dominated the politics of the South.
But if the critical mass of supportive members were there, the money would be less of an issue.
I think that this past election may go a long way in helping 3rd parties…that is if the people are truly as “angry” as we are lead to believe….chuq