The Debate Take Aways

First let me apologize this should have been part of the previous post….but it was late when the babbling stopped and I needed to nap.

These are what the pundits saw as the major take aways from the battling candidates last night.

President Trump and Joe Biden shared a debate stage for the second and final time Thursday night—and it was a far more restrained affair than their first meeting, helped by the introduction of a mute button and widely praised moderating from NBC’s Kristen Welker. With far fewer interruptions and a lot less crosstalk, the candidates made their opposing cases on issues including the pandemic, health care, and corruption. Analysts say that while both candidates landed some clear hits, the debate didn’t deliver the game-changing moment Trump needed. Some takeaways:

  • Sharp contrasts. While the tone of the Nashville debate “was more sedate, the conflict in matters of substance and vision could not have been more dramatic,” Alexander Burns and Jonathan Martin write at the New York Times. The contrast was most evident in the candidate’s remarks on the pandemic they write, with Trump “promising, in defiance of evidence, that the disease was ‘going away,'” while Biden “called for much more aggressive federal action for the ‘dark winter’ ahead.”
  • A changed tone from Trump. Trump cleared a low bar by improving his tone. The president was on his “best behavior” Thursday night and while his strategy seemed to be allowing Biden lots of speaking time in the hope the Democrat would slip up, “that didn’t really happen,” Niall Stanage and Jonathan Easley write at the Hill. “While there were moments where Biden appeared shaky, there were also instances in which he met the moment, such as with his emotional response to the Trump administration’s policy of separating parents from their children at the border,” they write. “But overall, the president’s calmer demeanor likely helped him to a degree.”
  • Not a disaster for Biden. The former vice president also cleared a low bar by not making any gaffes likely to jeopardize his lead in the polls, according to Mark Barabak and Melanie Mason at the Los Angeles Times. The Democrat “didn’t suffer a brain freeze or open his mouth and spray buckshot into his feet. Indeed, he more than acquitted himself,” they write. “Crisp speaking, cogent argument, and linear presentation have never been the former vice president’s strong suit,” they note, but despite “garble and a verbal stumble now and then,” there was “nothing remotely close to a death blow to Biden’s candidacy.”
  • “Facts took a hit.” The AP‘s fact-checking of the debate notes that the “facts took a hit right out of the gate”, when Trump “misrepresented the reality of the pandemic in myriad and familiar ways,” while “Biden, at times, was selective on the coronavirus and other matters, at one point stating that no one under Obamacare lost private health coverage. Millions did.”
  • Medicare-for-all among the losers. In a list of debate winners and losers at Vox, Medicare-for-all ranks among the losers. Biden rejected Trump’s claim that he was pushing for “socialized medicine,” telling the Republican that he had beaten numerous rivals who supported a single-payer system. “The reason why I had such a fight with 20 candidates for the nomination was I support private insurance,” Biden said. “Not one single person with private insurance would lose their insurance under my plan, nor did they under ObamaCare.”
  • “Better for the country.” This was the kind of debate people were hoping for the first time around, with “a clear contrast on policies and almost no incomprehensible crosstalk,” writes Jim Geraghty at National Review. “Compared to the first debate, this was Lincoln and Douglas. Okay, maybe more like Statler and Waldorf,” he writes. “But it was much better for everyone: better for Trump, better for Biden, and better for the country.” He says it’s “unfortunate for the Trump campaign” that there will not be a third debate.

Just a little refresher on the evening……

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2020 Presidential Debate #3

Mercifully this is the final debate before the vote.

This was a different debate than normal…it had to be altered because Donald the Orange does not understand what a debate is all about….and he was a titty baby.

The debate makes perfect fodder for an SNL skit….but in all fairness Trump was a bit calmer and seemed to be more focused than the first debate….still lied his ass off…..but as I expected there was some theatrics and …..Before the debate even began, Trump seemed to set the tone in the form of a special guest: He invited Tony Bobulinski, a former business partner of Hunter Biden. 

Plus Trump is trying out a new slur for Biden in the closing days of this election….. President Trump again pressed his case during Thursday night’s debate that Joe and Hunter Biden acted unethically in regard to Hunter’s business dealings. At one point, he referred to the elder Biden as “the big man” and suggested that he has orchestrated global deals that were enriching him personally. “I don’t make money from China. You do,” he said of Biden, per the Independent. “I don’t make money from Ukraine. You do. They even made a statement that they have to give 10% to the big man.” Biden, he suggested, was that “big man.” 

And then the first subject…..

Trump praised his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, insisting that “we’re rounding the corner” and that that a vaccine is just weeks away. Biden, for his part, said anyone who has mismanaged things as badly as Trump doesn’t deserve to be president. Both covered familiar ground on the topic over a series of questions, and one exchange largely summed things up. “We’re learning to live with it,” said Trump, per CBS News. Biden responded, “People are learning to die with it.”

And now for the rest of the story….

The second presidential debate was a marked changed from the first one, with few interruptions as the candidates covered a range of topics, including COVID and corruption. Late in the forum, President Trump sought to score points on energy by asking Joe Biden if he would shut down the oil industry. “I would transition from the oil industry, yes,” responded Biden, saying the industry “pollutes” and should eventually be replaced with greener alternatives. “That’s a big statement,” said Trump, asking voters in Texas and Pennsylvania to remember it. Other moments:

  • BidenCare: Joe Biden promised to beef up ObamaCare, or the Affordable Care Act, if he’s elected. “What I’m going to do is pass ObamaCare with a public option, become BidenCare,” he said, per Politico.

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(still looks like the industry will control the benefits)

  • Racism: Trump again compared himself to Abraham Lincoln in terms of how much he has done to help Black Americans, and he pronounced himself “the least racist person in this room.” Biden responded, “Abraham Lincoln over here is the most racist president we’ve ever had.”
  • Track record: “Joe, I ran because of you,” said Trump. “I ran because of Barack Obama. Because you did a poor job. If I thought you did a good job, I would have never run,” he said. “You keep talking about all these things you’re going to do. But you were there just a short time ago and you guys did nothing.”
  • Family separations: Biden said the separation of families at the border violates “every notion of who we are as a nation.”
  • Minimum wage: Biden backed a $15 minimum wage for the US, saying, “No one should work one job, two jobs below poverty.” Trump said it could hurt businesses and should be a state decision, per USA Today.

I admit that this debate was far more watchable than the first…at least for me…but the best optics of the night was from Biden and his facial expressions during his “silent” time…..

Mercifully this will be the last 2020 debate there has been too much theatrics surrounding them…..

I think most Americans already know who they will vote for so this bit of drama was as useless as teats on a boar.

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Debate–What To Expect Tonight

Just hours away from the silliness we call the presidential debates…..I will be watching just because I am a sucker of political theatrics…..if you are gonna watch and not wait for my analysis then this is what you can expect.

After a chaotic first debate and a second one that was replaced by dueling town halls, President Trump and Joe Biden will meet for a final debate in Nashville Thursday night. Under a rule change, each candidate’s mic will be muted for the first two minutes their rival speaks on each subject, meaning that there will probably be fewer interruptions than in the Cleveland clash—although since Trump’s main line of attack is expected to involve Biden’s son Hunter, analysts are not expecting it to be an entirely calm and sedate discussion. Biden is expected to focus on the economy and the pandemic. More:

  • The moderator. The Los Angeles Times describes NBC White House correspondent Kristen Welker as a “political junkie who got her dream job.” The Harvard-educated Welker has been assigned to the White House since 2011. She is the second Black woman to moderate a presidential debate. The first was former ABC anchor Carole Simpson, who moderated the second debate between George HW Bush, Bill Clinton, and Ross Perot in 1992.
  • After a chaotic first debate and a second one that was replaced by dueling town halls, President Trump and Joe Biden will meet for a final debate in Nashville Thursday night. Under a rule change, each candidate’s mic will be muted for the first two minutes their rival speaks on each subject, meaning that there will probably be fewer interruptions than in the Cleveland clash—although since Trump’s main line of attack is expected to involve Biden’s son Hunter, analysts are not expecting it to be an entirely calm and sedate discussion. Biden is expected to focus on the economy and the pandemic. More:

The moderator. The Los Angeles Times describes NBC White House correspondent Kristen Welker as a “political junkie who got her dream job.” The Harvard-educated Welker has been assigned to the White House since 2011. She is the second Black woman to moderate a presidential debate. The first was former ABC anchor Carole Simpson, who moderated the second debate between George HW Bush, Bill Clinton, and Ross Perot in 1992.

  • Biden’s dilemma over attacks on son. Politico reports that with Trump expected to attack Biden over Hunter’s business dealings, Democrats are divided over how the candidate should respond. Some say Biden should do more to highlight the conflicts of interest in Trump’s family, while others argue that he should just switch focus to the pandemic. “Do we really want to have a debate about politicians’ children when people are really struggling to no end? Throw a quick combo and get out,” suggests Democratic strategist James Carville.
  • Coronavirus precautions. An official from the Commission on Presidential Debates tells the Tennessean that both candidates will be tested for COVID-19 before the debate. Peter Eyre says the audience of around 200 people, including the candidates’ guests, will be required to wear masks and maintain social distancing. He says there will be “enforcement of the mask rule,” which did not happen in Cleveland, where Trump’s relatives removed their masks when the debate began.
  • How to watch. The debate begins at 9pm ET and will be carried on networks including ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, Fox News Channel, Fox Business Network, PBS, NBC, MSNBC, Noticias Telemundo, and C-SPAN, per the AP. The networks will also offer ways to watch the debate online through YouTube and other sites.

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Closing Thought–21Oct20

Remember all those horror stories coming out of the old USSR where the KGB was installed in all branches of the government to keep track of it’s people?

Well thank god that does not happen here in the good old US of A, right?

Or does it?

The White House planted two political officials with no public health experience at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to keep tabs on the agency and its scientists, according to The Associated Press.

Nina Witkofsky was appointed as senior advisor to CDC Director Robert Redfield at the agency’s Atlanta headquarters in June and within weeks had been promoted to CDC acting chief of staff.

The second political arrival, Chester “Trey” Moeller, is Witkofsky’s deputy. 

Witkofsky, the AP said, played a small role in Donald Trump’s 2016 election campaign. Her CDC profile also says she has worked in governmental affairs for 20 years, including at the State Department. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-planted-political-operatives-cdc-control-narrative-ap-2020-10

Has the US now created a KGB like section for spying on governmental officials?

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Pre-3rd And Final 2020 Presidential Debate

Tomorrow night we shall experience the last presidential debate before the general election…..and some things will be a bit different than in the past.

President Trump won’t be able to interrupt Joe Biden this time around—at least, not for the first two minutes of each of the six debate segments Thursday night. The nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates has changed its rules so that each candidate will get those two minutes of uninterrupted time for an opening statement, during which the other candidate’s mic will be muted, the Hill reports. For the rest of each 15-minute segment, “which by design is intended to be dedicated to open discussion,” the commission says, both mics will be on. The commission notes both campaigns had previously agreed to, and have recently reaffirmed, a commitment to giving each candidate two minutes of uninterrupted time to speak, and this rule change only serves to enforce that already-existing rule.

Even so, the Trump campaign has made clear it’s not happy with the change. “Regardless of last minute rule changes from the biased commission in their latest attempt to provide advantage to their favored candidate,” Trump will still participate in the debate, the campaign said in a statement after the rule change was announced Monday. Axios notes Trump had previously suggested he may not participate were mics to be cut off. Earlier Monday, the campaign had also complained about the range of topics announced for the debate, claiming that the commission had previously promised foreign policy would be the central focus (a claim the Biden campaign says is false). “The Commission’s pro-Biden antics have turned the entire debate season into a fiasco and it is little wonder why the public has lost faith in its objectivity,” campaign manager Bill Stepien said about that.

Will the final debate be the same fiasco the first was…..or will it take place at all?  Will it be theatrics or a real presentation of issues?

My analysis will be the day after the debate…..I suffer so you do not have to…..

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Another “Titty Baby” Episode

AS the election creeps closer the mental stability of Donald the Orange seem to be slipping….he rants and he pouts and he lies and gravels…..and none more prevalent than the most recent interview with NBC…..

President Trump was interviewed for 60 Minutes Tuesday, for a segment airing this coming Sunday, and after multiple outlets reported the POTUS had abruptly cut the sit-down short, Trump offered his take on things. “I am pleased to inform you that, for the sake of accuracy in reporting, I am considering posting my interview with Lesley Stahl of 60 Minutes, PRIOR TO AIRTIME! This will be done so that everybody can get a glimpse of what a FAKE and BIASED interview is all about,” he tweeted. “Everyone should compare this terrible Electoral Intrusion with the recent interviews of Sleepy Joe Biden!” He also referenced the incident at a rally Tuesday night, promising the crowd they would “get a kick” out of “what we do” to the show. Per CNN, after halting the interview 45 minutes in, Trump also refused to participate in a joint “walk and talk” that had been planned with Mike Pence. Pence instead taped his interview solo.

Trump also tweeted video of a maskless Stahl. “Lesley Stahl of 60 Minutes not wearing a mask in the White House after her interview with me. Much more to come,” he wrote. A CBS News official tells the Hill that the White House agreed to tape the interview “for archival purposes only”; it’s not clear exactly what that means. The official also says Stahl wore a mask up until the time of the sit-down, and that the image tweeted by Trump was from immediately after the interview, before she had returned to her personal belongings to retrieve her mask. Another says all of the CBS staff had been tested for COVID. It’s not clear what exactly transpired to cause the drama, nor how Trump might manage to leak the interview early. Sources tell Fox News Stahl was “extremely hostile,” and a source who was in the room tells Politico Trump was “pissed.” Per the site, Trump “was frustrated with the line of questioning and how the interview was being conducted.”

This does not help with what few undecided voters that are left and looking….

This also illustrates why you should make damn sure that you elect a president that has the mental capability over a 6 year old.

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News From The Orange

Believe it or not….Donald the Orange has made some news again…..I know….go figure.

Trump made the accusation that Democrats are “anti-American” radicals…..

President Trump leaned into fear tactics Saturday as he accused the left of trying to “erase American history, purge American values and destroy the American way of life” in a late reelection pitch to voters in Michigan, the AP reports. “The Democrat party you once knew doesn’t exist,” Trump told voters in Muskegon, Michigan, ahead of a rally in Wisconsin—two states that were instrumental to his 2016 victory but may now be slipping from his grasp. As he tried to keep more voters from turning against him, Trump sought to paint Democrats as “anti-American radicals” on a “crusade against American history.” The pitch comes as Trump faces headwinds not only in national polling, which shows Joe Biden leading, but also in key battleground surveys.

And it comes after the campaign largely retreated from TV advertising in the Midwest, shifting much of its money to Sun Belt states such as Florida, North Carolina, Arizona, and Georgia, as well as Pennsylvania. Biden had no public events planned for Saturday, but in a memo to supporters, campaign manager Jen O’Malley Dillon issued her own warning: “The reality is that this race is far closer than some of the punditry we’re seeing on Twitter and on TV would suggest,” she wrote. “If we learned anything from 2016, it’s that we cannot underestimate Donald Trump or his ability to claw his way back into contention in the final days of a campaign, through whatever smears or underhanded tactics he has at his disposal.”

Seriously?  “Anti-American Radical”?  If you believe that then you are a bigger moron than I thought.

Then he, Trump, made the statement that if he losses in November he may have to leave the country.

President Trump doesn’t often acknowledge possible defeat in the upcoming election, but he pondered that possibility Friday night during a rally in Macon, Ga. USA Today reports that during the event at the Middle Georgia Regional Airport, Trump was poking fun at health protocols such as face masks and social distancing in place at Biden events, when he suddenly seemed to realize his words may come back to bite him. “I shouldn’t joke, because you know what? Running against [Biden] … puts pressure on me,” he said, calling the former VP “the worst candidate in the history of presidential politics.” He continued: “Could you imagine if I lose? My whole life, what am I going to do? … I’m not going to feel so good.”

He then added: “Maybe I’ll have to leave the country. I don’t know.” The Hill notes this isn’t the first time Trump has alluded to disappearing from the spotlight if he loses to an opponent. At a North Carolina rally last month, Trump told supporters that “if I lose to [Biden], I don’t know what I’m going to do,” per Business Insider. “I will never speak to you again. You’ll never see me again.” And in April 2016, at a Maryland rally, he considered what he’d do if he didn’t get the GOP presidential nomination. “I don’t think I’m going to lose, but if I do, I don’t think you’re ever going to see me again, folks,” he said. “I think I’ll go to Turnberry and play golf or something.”

I guess he thinks he will be held accountable and we know he runs away from that likelihood.

Finally some have realized the Trump only uses religion for votes nothing else…..now some so-called Christians are pulling their heads out of the sand and stepping forward.

A group of prominent Christians from both sides of the aisle, including a past faith adviser to former President Barack Obama, is forming a political action committee designed to chip away at Christian support for President Trump in the final weeks of the 2020 campaign, the AP reports. Dubbed Not Our Faith, the new super PAC plans to roll out six-figure TV and digital ads focused on Christian voters—particularly the evangelical and Catholic voters who helped power Trump to victory in 2016. Its first digital ad, set to run in Michigan and Pennsylvania, takes sharp aim at Trump’s claim to a foothold with Christians. The ad says Trump “has used Christianity for his own purposes,” invoking imagery of the president’s photo op outside a Washington church amid this summer’s racial justice demonstrations.

Urging Christians to break from Trump, the ad states that they “don’t need Trump to save them. The truth is that Trump needs Christians to save his flailing campaign.” That sharp critique of Trump’s standing with Christian voters comes as the president looks to evangelicals in particular to help him muscle to reelection over Democratic nominee Joe Biden. While Biden’s campaign is mounting a well-organized faith outreach effort, that work largely focuses on an affirmative case for the former vice president rather than the overtly anti-Trump case that the new PAC is making. Trump and his reelection campaign continue to lean heavily on pitches to Christian voters, with the president asserting the baseless claim that Biden and Democrats are hostile to religion.

But that is not all….Trump has finally made an appearance at some church and on a Sunday to boot……

  • With Trump seated in the front row at the nondenominational International Church of Las Vegas, the senior associate pastor, Denise Goulet, said God told her the president is the apple of his eye and would secure a second term. “At 4:30, the Lord said to me, ‘I am going to give your president a second win,'” she said, telling Trump, “you will be the president again.”
  • Trump offered brief remarks, saying “I love going to churches” and that it was “a great honor” to attend the service. He dropped a wad of $20 bills in the collection plate before leaving. Despite the pandemic, there were no efforts to social distance and few attendees wore masks.

We can only hope that God was pulling the pastor’s leg.

That final thought I keep trying to get to…..

“The Christmas season will be canceled” — Trump says Biden will cancel Christmas……yep and you thought that lie had gone away.

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That Covid Treatment For The President

Our dear Orange man in the White House spent 4 days being treated for Covid-19….and his treatment has been praised by him as exceptional and that he is now immune to the virus forever.

What is this miracle treatment that only the president has received?

To treat Trump, doctors gave him supplemental oxygen and treatments including a steroid typically used in severe COVID-19 cases and an experimental antibody cocktail created by the US biotech company Regeneron.

To test the antibody cocktail’s effectiveness, Regeneron used an “immortalized epithelial cell line,” or cells that were altered in a lab so they could last forever when they otherwise would not. These cells, now called HEK 293T cells, were derived from the kidneys of a fetus that was aborted in 1972 in the Netherlands.

(Business Insider)

Texas Alliance for Life, the Heritage Foundation, and Pro-Life Action League, plus others that didn’t respond to Insider’s requests for comment, have opposed the use of human, embryonic stem cells, including those derived from aborted fetuses, to test vaccines including a potential COVID-19 shot.

On April 17, antiabortion advocates wrote a letter to Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn asking the agency to find “ethical” ways to test a COVID-19 vaccine that would not involve cells from abortions.

How interesting…..but how does this type of research look to religions around the world?

Catholicism

In accordance with their anti-abortion stance, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops supports adult stem cell research but opposes embryonic stem cell research since it creates or destroys human embryos.

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has not issued a statement on the issue of stem cell research.

Episcopal Church

In 2004, the church’s governing body, the General Convention, declared itself in favor of stem cell research as long as the embryos used would have been destroyed otherwise, the embryos were not created solely for research purposes and the embryos were not bought or sold.

(Check what your religion has to say on this research)

Religious Groups’ Official Positions on Stem Cell Research

Apparently if it is used to treat the Donald of Orange then matters not where the cells come from….hypocrites of every stripe of religion.

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Townhall Tango

Thursday night we had battling townhalls….Trump on NBC and Biden on ABC…..I gave an analysis on Friday’s post……https://lobotero.com/2020/10/16/those-battling-townhalls/

The whole evening was a study in chaos and conflict…..and I watched and read all the analyses and the noise surrounding the evening….

First let me say….Trump is the only person to lose a debate without having an opponent.

Thursday’s night presidential town halls were very different from each other, and a similar theme has emerged in the political post-mortems. What was originally supposed to be a face-to-face debate “morphed into a long-distance study in contrasts,” write Alexander Burns and Katie Glueck at the New York Times. Essentially, the events provided viewers with a choice: Which style of president do you want, combative or, well, dull?

  • The “dueling town halls were like a choose-your-own-ending book, letting us peer into the future and see what the two election outcomes would be like,” write Mike Allen and Margaret Talev at Axios.
  • “It came off less like a split screen than a breach in the political universe—Die Hard versus It’s a Wonderful Life,” per David Siders and Anita Kumar at Politico.
  • “On one channel, Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood. On the other, a rerun of Celebrity Deathmatch. Or, at least, that’s how it felt,” write Scott Bixby and Asawin Suebsaeng at the Daily Beast. That wasn’t the only comparison to Mister Rogers. Biden’s town hall “feels like I am watching an episode of Mister Rodgers [sic] Neighborhood,” tweeted Trump campaign adviser Mercedes Schlapp. USA Today notes that “Mr. Rogers” was soon trending.
  • The events “appeared to be broadcast from entirely different dimensions,” according to a story by Michael Scherer, Jenna Johnson, and Josh Dawsey in the Washington Post. “The soft-spoken Biden leaned back in a white chair, relaxed and conversational as he hit upon notes of optimism and uplift. Trump’s appearance was heated and at times abrasive, with the candidate leaning forward as he defended his record and challenged the motivations of moderator Savannah Guthrie.”
  • “In a nightmare alternate universe, Americans find hope by viewing films from a different dimension, where life unfolds as normal,” writes David Frum in the Atlantic. “That’s the plot of the Amazon science-fiction series The Man in the High Castle. It was also the experience many Americans had as they flipped back and forth between two town halls last night.”
  • “Unsurprisingly, Trump’s town hall was much more combative than Biden’s,” writes Kira Davis at RedState. “The Election Commission should have just gone ahead with an in-person debate, since Savannah Guthrie just ended up debating the president anyway. The ratings numbers will be interesting to see, but flipping back and forth between Trump and Biden, it was crystal clear that the more entertaining conversation was over at NBC.”
  • “As a journalist whose job involves trying to write articles people read, I was, frankly, sad to have been assigned to watch the Biden town hall, which was just not that interesting,” writes Matthew Yglesias at Vox. “But as a citizen, it was tremendously reassuring.”

All in all the evening was a waste of time……voters already know who they will vote for….all the evening was was either for entertainment…..or to induce the gag reflex.

But who won the numbers game?

Donald Trump often has been a TV ratings hit, but maybe not this time. Preliminary results from his nearly head-to-head matchup Thursday night with Joe Biden show the president bringing up the rear, Variety reports. Biden, whose 90-minute event was carried by ABC, is averaging 13.9 million total viewers in early returns. Trump’s hourlong appearance is coming in at 13.1 million combined on NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC. The difference was bigger when comparing the broadcast networks. MSNBC had about 1.7 million viewers and CNBC 700,000, which puts Biden ahead of Trump on the two major networks, 13.9 million to 10.7 million. The final numbers aren’t in yet. ABC’s livestream on YouTube also outdrew the Trump feed.

Before the town halls, both campaigns predicted a ratings triumph for Trump, per CNN; TV executives agreed. Jason Miller, a Trump campaign aide, had said, “We’re gonna have a much bigger audience than Joe.” But the former vice president has shown his ratings strength this campaign. The Democratic presidential nominee averaged 6.7 million viewers in a town hall shown last week on NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC, while Trump’s event last month on ABC drew 3.8 million. Biden also outdrew Trump in their national conventions this summer. Biden had 24.6 million viewers, while Trump drew 23.8 million to the Republican National Convention.

Will any of this equate to votes?

We have the 3rd and last debate in 5 days (that is if Trump does not find a way to weasel out of it)…..should prove to be as worthless as the past ones.

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