Looking For A Third Party?

2022 and 2024 elections are getting closer by the day…..and so far I am unimpressed by the successes that the Dems have and the GOP is a laughable pack of slugs….what we need is a viable third party for those of us that are sick of the silliness our government has become.

Since I hold no particular love for either of our two major parties….I am in search for a good third party that will reflect my beliefs and principles….

Well there is a new party in the making….it is the brain child of Andrew Yang, a failed 2020 presidential candidate and failed mayoral candidate for NYC….

Former presidential and New York mayoral candidate Andrew Yang is set to launch a third party next month, according to two people familiar with the matter.

Yang is expected to start the party in conjunction with the Oct. 5 release of his new book, “Forward: Notes on the Future of Our Democracy.”

It’s not clear what the name of Yang’s third party will be or how he plans to deploy it in 2022 or 2024. Yang and his team did not respond to requests for comment.

But the book’s publisher, Crown, did give some clues about the type of platform Yang may pursue. It writes that the book is an indictment of America’s “era of institutional failure” and will introduce “us to the various ‘priests of the decline’ of America, including politicians whose incentives have become divorced from the people they supposedly serve.”

The book is blurbed by businessperson Mark Cuban (“a vitally important book”) and The New York Times’ Kara Swisher (“Can there be another political party in the U.S.?…In Forward, Yang does not just give us a laundry list of intractable problems, but shows how we can find solutions if we think in new ways and summon the courage to do so.”).

A former businessperson, Yang surprised many in the political world with creative, outsider campaigns for both president and mayor. His presidential campaign outlasted and raised more money than those of much more seasoned politicians. But, ultimately, that did not translate to votes as he dropped out shortly after the New Hampshire primary and faded in the polls as the mayoral race came to a close.

He ran predominantly on the idea of a universal basic income, which would see the government give citizens a monthly $1,000 check. It was a quirky policy proposal that did not fit neatly into the ideological prism of either party and won Yang converts among many apolitical figures online and in the media — some of whom dubbed themselves the “Yang Gang.”


It is good to see someone trying to put a stop to the strangle-hold of the 2 parties of this country.

I have made my thoughts known during the 2020 presidential campaigns….

A President Yang?

Sorry but this guy is NOT the third party I am looking for…..Yang is too much a capitalist and is just looking for the spotlight….his policies are no better than those of the other two capitalist parties we have to deal with in our elections.

All I can do is move on and continue my search…..

While I was holding this draft waiting for the best time to posy….Yang made it official…..

Andrew Yang wants to overhaul politics, from the two-party system to political campaigns, as he writes in a new book out Tuesday. In the final chapter of Forward: Notes on the Future of Our Democracy, the former Democratic presidential and New York City mayoral candidate reveals the name of a third party he’s founded, reports Business Insider. The Forward Party involves six key principles of “ranked-choice voting and open primaries”; “fact-based governance”; “human-centered capitalism”; “effective and modern-day government”; “universal basic income” and “grace and tolerance.” And “it’s inclusive,” Yang tells the New York Times.

Without it, “the dysfunction is going to kill us,” Yang writes in his book, per Insider. “The two sides will be trapped in a war that both sides win—they will still be hovering in one of the most affluent areas in the country trading power—but the people will lose.” In an excerpt shared by Politico, Yang dives into the problems of power, noting it makes people “more impulsive, more reckless and less able to see things from others’ points of view.” In presidential politics, “the job was simply the seeking of attention” and “the people around me treated me as either a celebrity or a product that hundreds of staffers were focused on selling,” he writes.

It’s no wonder that politicians grow “out of touch.” Now, they’re “being set up to attack each other and be at each other’s throats because that’s the way they’re going to raise more money, gain more stature and keep their own jobs,” Yang says in an NPR interview. He argues the closed party primary system forces politicians to cater “to the 20% most ideologically extreme voters in their party.” But “my mission is to change the process to open primaries and ranked choice voting so that every legislator has to try and appeal to a majority of us and not the folks on either extreme.”

I am still not impressed by Yang….moving on……

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2020–Who Gets My Vote?

I have done a lot of bitching about the slate of 2020 candidates….so I guess the question is…..just who will get my vote this time around.

I will be honest…I have not voted for a winner in a presidential election since 1975…….when I voted for Jimmy Carter.

Since that election I have not seen any main stream candidate as a good choice for this country to move forward…..I did not vote for Reagan or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Obama or Trump…..so I can safely said that I did NOT vote for the rogue in the White House.

I wrote on my opinion blog, Gulf South Free Press, about my beliefs and my issues I want to see in a candidate…..https://gulfsouthfreepress.wordpress.com/2018/04/04/who-are-you/

I vote my principles I refuse to settle for the least smelly candidate…..some think that my vote is wasted on a 3rd party candidate….and that is their opinion personally I think if you settle for the least offensive candidate then YOUR VOTE was/is wasted.

In 2016 I looked at the Green Party….I just could not put my faith in Jill Stein…I also checked out the Modern Whig Party, I liked what I read but they did not offer a candidate…..Libertarians I like the antiwar posture but their idea of hyper-capitalism turns me off…..I admit it I did check out a couple of the so-called Left wing parties….not impressed.

The major parties have historically eliminated the third parties by silly rules that make them the only game in town…..rules like…..A third party candidate will sometimes strike a chord with a section of voters in a particular election, bringing an issue to national prominence and amount a significant proportion of the popular vote. Major parties often respond to this by adopting this issue in a subsequent election. After 1968, under President Nixon the Republican Party adopted a “Southern Strategy” to win the support of conservative Democrats opposed to the Civil Rights Movement and resulting legislation and to combat third parties with southern agendas. This can be seen as a response to the popularity of segregationist candidate George Wallace who gained 13.5% of the popular vote in the 1968 election for the American Independent Party.

Then the states have ways of keeping 3rd parties off the tickets…..Nationally, ballot access laws are the major challenge to third party candidacies. While the Democratic and Republican parties usually easily obtain ballot access in all fifty states in every election, third parties often fail to meet criteria for ballot access, such as registration fees. Or, in many states, they do not meet petition requirements in which a certain number of voters must sign a petition for a third party or independent candidate to gain ballot access.

This is how the system chooses your candidate for you.

But that does not answer my question just explains why I have so little choice……but it is 2020…..

If this was the GOP of 1956 I would vote Republican…….

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Their 1956 platform is something they should be proud of…..

Sadly those days of principled Republicans are gone….gone….gone….

If I do not like the GOP and I think the Dems are a spineless bunch of centrists then where does that vote….my vote…. go?

Libertarian?  I like there antiwar and non-intervention positions but cannot vote for the hyper-capitalism that is killing our Middle Class…

The Green Party…..this is where I have put my vote in the past but it looks like the GPUSA has been shut down……Howie is just a tool of eco-capitalism.

Where oh where?

Reform Party?  Not interested.  Constitution Party?  Too religious for my liking.  A Socialist Party?  Nope most are too chaotic.  The Modern Whig Party?  I like some of their positions but they shut down in 2018……

Register as an ‘independent’ does nothing to help when most times there are only 2 or 3 choices and none are progressive enough for my vote.

A Progressive Party, Bull Moose Party, would be ideal for me…..https://lobotero.com/2010/11/12/how-about-a-new-bull-moose-party-2/

It is a shame and a bit pathetic that I have no  candidate to vote for in 2020 (for now)……. I will have to hold my nose and pick a lying toad or a spineless slug….not my idea of a constitutional democracy.

Further Reading:



The Two-Party System Is Not Working—and Not Going Anywhere


I think it is moronic to limit the voter’s choices to two parties…..we need a viable third party….a point I wrote about 9 years ago here on IST….https://lobotero.com/2010/11/12/how-about-a-new-bull-moose-party-2/

There is a party that represents the best policies of progressives….

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Check them out……http://www.progressivebullmoose.party/welcome-to-the-bull-moose-revolution/  or maybe here……https://progressivepartyusa.com/

While I like most of their policies in their platform I am disappointed that they have little foreign policy in there……an in depth look at their platform…….http://www.progressivebullmoose.party/platform/

The Mission statement for the Progressive Party….

Our mission is to return political and economic power to the American people. By raising money and running candidates under our own banner—the Progressive Bull Moose Party—we aim to end the era of big money, big corporate-controlled government—rule by the super rich—and return power to the people.

There is also another alternative party that I have been looking at…..the Citizens Party….a check of their platform/mission statement  tells me I have more in common with them than the two major parties…..but check them out for yourself……http://www.votecitizens.org/platform

It should not be this difficult to find a suitable candidate for my vote……but sadly it is.

My thought on the two major candidates that are reaching for my vote…..

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2020–Amash For President

Our presidential future for the last couple of months have been Trump or Biden…..we now have a new candidate to give us voters an alternate to dumb or dumber…..

His name is Justin Amash…..

Justin Amash, an independent congressman from Michigan, announced Tuesday that he is forming an exploratory committee for president as a Libertarian Party candidate.

Amash’s prospects, though dim, could nevertheless be significant in a close election between President Donald Trump and Joe Biden. Third-party candidates who gain even a fraction of the vote in swing states can affect the outcome in a close race.


As with everything our president, Donald the Orange, has something to say about an Amash candidacy…..

Rep. Justin Amash on Tuesday took a step toward launching his own third-party bid for the presidency—and President Trump essentially told him to go for it on Wednesday. In what the Hill terms a “mocking” tweet, Trump wrote, “I think Amash would make a wonderful candidate, especially since he is way behind in his district and has no chance of maintaining his Congressional seat.” Politico frames Trump as “egging on” the Michigan independent in a tweet that concluded with, “He almost always votes for the Do Nothing Dems anyway. I like him even more than Jill Stein!”

The latter was a reference to the 2016 Green Party nominee. Politico notes that some people claimed Stein siphoned votes from Hillary Clinton, helping to hand Trump the White House. Trump’s tweet was paired with a Washington Post op-ed by former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh, who argued that should Amash secure the Libertarian nomination, the same thing could play out this election cycle. But a CNN analysis by Harry Enten argues that the limited polling data on Amash doesn’t place his meager support with any one demographic. Enten believes any impact Amash might have would be nominal, though he does acknowledge that it’s possible Amash could have a greater impact in Michigan, where Biden currently leads Trump by 8 points.

That should people something to think about when they try to decide which person to give their vote to in November.

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A Fresh Face For 2020

Closing Thought–08Jan20

We know all about this Dems as they scrap and insult and accuse their fellow party members….but what about those “alternatives” to our badly broke 2m party system?

As we approach the first contests tpwards the general election in November…..this time let’s look at the Libertarians, a perennial participant in the elections.

Since he could NO traction as a Dem candidate the former governor of Rhode Island has entered as a Libertarian….

Former Democratic presidential candidate Lincoln Chafee has filed to run for president as a Libertarian. The former governor of Rhode Island on Sunday registered the “Lincoln Chafee For President” campaign committee with the Federal Election Commission, the AP reports. A fundraising website linked to the FEC filing states, “Lincoln Leads with TRUTH.” Chafee moved to Wyoming last year and joined the Libertarian Party. He was a Republican in the US Senate and became an independent after losing his seat in 2006. Chafee was then elected Rhode Island governor in 2010 as an independent and became a Democrat in office. He did not run for reelection but mounted a short-lived run for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2015.

A candidate in search of a party……sorry this person has been a GOPer, a Dem an independent and now a Libertarian….will never trust a candidate that cannot make up his mind on where his policies fall.

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Closing Thought–16May18

Most other countries in the world has a wide array of candidates in their elections we here in the US usually have 2 major candidates a couple 3rd party ones ……2018 is the mid-term elections here and this time we have a wide array ourselves….we have right wingers, neo-nazis and a bunch of criminals….

How did the Republican Party — once known as the party of “law and order” — become a party that could provide space for lawbreakers and extremists, thugs and criminals, hoodlums and hate groups? This astonishing transformation can only be attributed to the presidency of Donald Trump, whose words during the 2016 campaign and during his term in the White House helped make America safe for extremists.

White supremacists, Infowars conspiracy theorists and convicted criminals are running, some as viable candidates, on the GOP ticket on the state and federal level, something which would have been unheard of only a few years ago.

Such individuals are not barred from putting their hat in the ring and aspiring for elected office, but it is remarkable that party leaders have by and large not shown the backbone to condemn them. But in a way that’s not surprising in a party where extremism and intolerance are mainstream GOP fare, and its standard bearer runs an ethically challenged administration mired in criminal investigations. Trump said he would drain the swamp, but he is the swamp, and he is sending swamp-dwelling creatures to the Senate, Congress and the state house.


The GOP really needs to clean their party up a bit…….

The mid-terms may prove to be quiet entertaining…..

Seriously? 2020?

As things shake out in DC all eyes turn to the possibilities for the 2018 election.  We all are aware of the antics in Foggy Bottom….all the games….all the jockeying for position…..all the theater…with all that going on there are still some people that are looking to the 2020 elections for the “change” we are a;ways in search of…..

Not for the first time….there is a stir in the backrooms about a possible 3rd party ticket….an independent ticket…..

And suddenly, there’s a hot rumor about a presidential ticket for 2020—featuring a Democrat and a Republican, no less. The potential pairing is GOP Gov. John Kasich of Ohio and Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper of Colorado, reports Mike Allen at Axios. The two (nicknamed “the Johns”) have been making the rounds of late talking about health care, and things are going so well that they’re reportedly toying with the idea of an independent bid in 2020, with Kasich as the presidential contender. Coverage:

  • Nothing formal:CNN has a source familiar with the discussions who confirms all of the above, while stressing that it’s all informal at this point. “The idea of a joint ticket has been discussed, but not at an organizational or planning level.”
  • Expanding platform: Both Axios and CNN say that while the two have been focusing on health care for now, they’ll be expanding their platform in the near future. Job creation and immigration will be two main topics, with a particular focus on helping those losing jobs to automation. A podcast or perhaps a cable show also may be in the works.
  • Health care: The pair plan to release their ideas for stabilizing the nation’s insurance markets next month, and they aim to get other governors to sign on, reports NPR. They wrote about the broad strokes and the need for a bipartisan approach in the Washington Post in June. One specific idea: They don’t like the ObamaCare rule requiring businesses with 50 or more employees to provide insurance; the number should be higher, they say, as it currently hurts small businesses.
  • Worry for Democrats: At the National Review, Jim Geraghty argues that it would be bad news for Democrats if such a ticket comes to be. (He’s skeptical it will.) “If you’re a vehement Trump foe, you want the anti-Trump vote split in as few ways as possible,” and Kasich-Hickenlooper could steal needed electoral votes from Democrats (including a total of 27 in the governors’ home states).
  • Not quite a denial: Hickenlooper was asked about the possibility of a joint ticket in early August and said, “I don’t think Kasich would ever do that,” per Politico. But he didn’t exactly rule it out: “You never know. You never say. … I do like the idea of working with him in some context at some point.”
  • 503 days: On Thursday, Hickenlooper said on MSNBC that he wouldn’t even think about a presidential run until his gubernatorial term ends, per the Hill. And he knew that he had precisely 503 days left.

A couple of thoughts……too damn early to be thinking that far ahead.  Who knows what direction this country will travel 7+ years from now.  Second, who the Hell is Hickenlooper?  If you are not a political junkie then this name means absolutely NOTHING to you.

This is a stupid report that deserves to be shelved until 2020 looms closer.

Libertarians and War: A Bibliographical Essay

This past election showed that the American voter was looking for something new and different…..during that election the Libertarians got a great amount of support from the voter.

I have been reading about more and more people are starting to look to the Libertarian Party for the future….now I cannot say if this will continue or they will be successful…..but the interest is growing.

I also like parts of the Libertarian platform……their concern for war and their stands of individual rights…..they kinda turn me off with some of their economic policies….

This is an essay on the relationship between war and Libertarian thought…..maybe this will help my readers that are looking for an alternative…..

The relationship between war and libertarianism has interested me since 9/11. In the aftermath of those terrorist attacks, I witnessed in grim fascination many libertarians make excuses for government in the realm of national security. The proper libertarian position on war has become a matter of controversy, although I believe it shouldn’t be. “War is the health of the state,” as Randolph Bourne said, as well as being “mass murder,” in the words of Murray Rothbard.

The following essay presents some of the most relevant materials and readings on this controversy. It is unapologetically tilted toward the antiwar position, although it includes some references to pro-interventionist writings. It is idiosyncratic and not comprehensive, and its omissions are not always deliberate. I am always interested in reading suggestions. As for the citations, I include publishing information for books but generally leave it out for articles written for or available on the web, so as to avoid extraneous clutter. Please follow the links to learn more.

Source: Libertarians and War: A Bibliographical Essay – The Libertarian Institute

I would like to help readers look beyond the two party system for it has been screwing the American people for decades……time for a change.

Why I Voted Jill Stein For President

The day has finally arrived….maybe this long nightmare of lies and unrealistic promises will come to a close…..but first a little music before you head out……

There is no secret here that I voted for Stein and with every post I have explained why I am not voting for one of the two major players…..I have received push back from some on my choice which does not matter for I made my choice and did what I said I would do…voted for the person that I think would be the best for the country and its people……

With all that said I ran across an article by a person that explained why they were voting for Dr. Jill Stein and in more eloquent words explains the reasons that I chose to do so…….and yes I know that she is a flawed candidate….but to me way less so than the other two……

Keep in mind that this was written during the highly contested primaries…..

A dire prospect I’ve long anticipated became reality last week: Bernie Sanders, the independent Senator from Vermont-turned-Democratic presidential candidate, endorsed Hillary Clinton ahead of the Democratic National Convention.

Even as the system crumbled around them, Sanders’ millions of supporters have done work that’s nothing short of miraculous. Their fight against the party establishment and that establishment’s friends in the corporate media brought Sanders closer to victory than many thought possible and heightened awareness around crucial issues like economic inequality and the corruption of our democracy.

To continue to force the gears of political change to turn, we can’t just hold our noses and vote for Clinton or sit this one out and wait another four years for a revolution.

Source: Why I’m Choosing Peace & Voting Jill Stein For President

The one leading indicator for me was when Jill Stein promises to re-invest the billions wasted on America’s foreign policy into job creation and universal healthcare.

I am pleased with my vote….are you?

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I’m headed out now to see what is happening at the polls around my area….a bit of rain for the first time in 75 days…..gonna be messy out.

Think Green For The Future

If you are worried about the trajectory of this country….then take the title seriously…….

It is less than two months from the election…..it is time for the voter to pull their head out of their butt and pick a candidate….one that has the best interest of the country at heart….

Yes, I know…..I was a supporter of Bernie Sanders at least originally…..he was a progressive choice to support against the neocon Clinton……and I sure as Hell was not going to support anything on the GOP side….a biggest bunch of egocentric crack pots on the planet.

But in case you have any misconceptions about Bernie……

New aggregated poll data from hundreds of polls nationwide have delivered Clinton and Trump the lowest favorable ratings of presidential candidates since polls began 30 years ago.

Clinton’s favorability rating has slumped to 41% among all eligible voters, according to the Huffington Post, while Trump’s remains steady at a low 36%.

Sanders meanwhile has surged to his highest favorable rating of the election season. His 53.4% favorable rating is so far ahead of both candidates it suggests that he would trounce them both and win the election in a landslide if it was held today.

Source: Polls Shows Bernie Sanders Would Win Election By Landslide | Your News Wire

Now that Bernie has decided to drink the “unity” kool-aid and endorse Clinton I have to find an alternative……and now I am thinking Green……

If you are a true progressive and do not know what to do this election…then maybe a look at a good alternative will help……

We are grassroots activists, environmentalists, advocates for social justice, nonviolent resisters and regular citizens who’ve had enough of corporate-dominated politics. Government must be part of the solution, but when it’s controlled by the 1%, it’s part of the problem. The longer we wait for change, the harder it gets. Don’t stay home on election day. Vote Green.

Source: www.gp.org


The Green Party candidate for president is Dr. Jill Stein….she is a progressive and a person that actually has a vision for the United States…..unlike our two major party candidates…..

I recently read a good debate on why us progressives should not support Clinton in her bid…..

After a tension-filled opening day of the Democratic National Convention that saw Senator Bernie Sanders endorse his former rival Hillary Clinton, we host a debate between Green Party presidential candidate Dr. Jill Stein and Ben Jealous, former NAACP president and CEO and a Bernie Sanders surrogate.

Source: Jill Stein vs. Ben Jealous: Should Progressives Reject Hillary Clinton & Vote Green? | Democracy Now!

She made, to my mind, excellent reason why we should run from the candidacy of Hillary Clinton…..

There is still time for you, the voter, to check out a real alternative to the raging bullshit of the two major parties……

After listening to Dr. Stein at the townhall on CNN she said one thing that made my choice easy….

Americans who tuned into CNN’s Green Party town hall last night were exposed to political ideas and analyses that are rarely given airtime on mainstream news networks.

Moderated by CNN host Chris Cuomo, the town hall allowed people in the audience to ask questions of Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein and her running mate Ajamu Baraka.

An audience member identifying herself as a US army veteran expressed dismay at Stein’s support for the Palestinian-led boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement that seeks to hold Israel accountable for ongoing human rights abuses against Palestinians.

“Why do you single out Israel being that they are a democratic ally to us?” she asked, reciting a standard pro-Israel talking point. “Why don’t you do the same for other Middle Eastern States, many of which are committing horrific crimes and abuse of people?”

Source: No special treatment for Israel, Jill Stein says | The Electronic Intifada

Finally a candidate that does not kiss Israeli ass!

Is there a reason to vote Green?

Source: Time to Vote for a Third Party? – LA Progressive

If you as a voter is still on the fence for this election…may I suggest that you check out the Green Party platform…..

Source: Jill Stein on The Issues – Campaign 2016 – Council on Foreign Relations

Source: Platform – GPUS

THINK GREEN!  That is unless you are one of those that lets others make up your mind for you……then….never mind!

Go Ahead, Throw Your Vote Away – Reason.com

Tomorrow you will go and cast your vote, if you have not already, and most will do it for either Trump or Clinton…..very few of us will brave the backlash and vote a third party…..what the Hell…I never was a herd animal…….

I do not buy the standard cop out that my vote will be a vote for the “other” guy and will assure this candidate or that the win.

A math lesson for critics of third-party voters

This is a post by a Libertarian leaning site but the points may work for any third party vote…..

My correspondent fired back: “Opportunity cost is Trump gets elected.”

I stand by my recklessness.

Here’s where the curious nature of the American Electoral College comes in handy. Even where my vote—or the votes of my 100 closest, most easily influenced “inner circle”—might swing an election, there is simply no real chance that pushing either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton over the top in South Carolina, where I live, will determine the outcome of the presidential race. If Hillary wobbles to victory in my current state of residence, she would have already demolished The Donald in the Electoral College. Similarly, in Maryland (where our family lived until 2014), a squeaker for Mr. Trump would indicate that Ms. Clinton had been vanquished in a yuuuuuge landslide elsewhere.

Source: Go Ahead, Throw Your Vote Away – Reason.com

Know your candidate and to Hell with the backlash.

On another note….there are those people that show their grit and do what their conscience tells them….I have a new HERO……

A Democratic presidential elector in Washington state says he will not vote for Hillary Clinton.

Former Bernie Sanders delegate Robert Satiacum told ABC News Friday night that the Democratic presidential candidate‘s stance on the environment clashed with his Native American heritage. “I will not vote for Hillary Clinton,” he told ABC News. “I will not write her name. I will not. I will not.”

The member of the Puyallup Tribe in the Evergreen State says he believes Clinton lied about using a private email server, calling it a “heinous act of stupidity.”

“She has done nothing remarkable as Secretary of State or as the senator of New York,” he continued. “She’s bought and paid for … I just can’t get behind her. There’s no character there.”

He added, “Maybe I’ll vote Mickey Mouse. In all seriousness, maybe I should vote for Bozo the Clown.”

Satiacum’s defection would matter only if Clinton landed at exactly 270 electoral votes on election night — and Satiacum still went rogue in the face of immense pressure and weeks of unprecedented litigation.


We need more people that are willing to vote their conscience and not for some celeb with a big mouth or some war mongering witch……