Tag: Third Party

Let’s Try This Stupidity Again

Back in the early days of the 2008 election a couple of guys wanted to build a new independent party (dammit!  I cannot recall what is was called)….their idea was to nominate a Dem and a Repub for a new independent ticket….it was a bomb and at best it was a political scam…..and now almost 20 years later another ‘well meaning’ billionaire has a ‘new’ idea.

Floridians aren’t getting John Morgan on the ballot—but he’s dangling six figures to rebrand their politics. The 70-year-old billionaire ended statewide speculation on Monday by announcing that he would not run for governor, reports Politico. However, Morgan does plan to launch a new state political party and will pay $100,000 to whoever comes up with its name. The contest rules will be laid out in the coming days. One that’s clear: Morgan can afford the reward: Forbes pegs his worth at $1.5 billion.

Morgan, who built the Morgan & Morgan injury law empire, has poured millions into successful ballot measures to raise Florida’s minimum wage and legalize marijuana, earning him the nickname “Pot Daddy.” The former Democrat, who is now registered as an Independent, previously flirted with gubernatorial runs in 2018 and 2024. In his Monday video, Morgan argued that “what ails us is the two-party system,” adding, “Most of us agree on most things, but if you put the D up and the R up, nothing ever gets done.”

Do not be fooled!  This is just another political scam by a billionaire that is hedging his vote in case Donny is shown the door.

Got It!  (Damn!  That took a lot of thinking on my poor brain)

This 2008 attempt was called Unit08

The political reform movement was founded as a non-profit organization by several political figures: Democrats Hamilton Jordan, Gerald Rafshoon, and Republican consultants Doug Bailey and Jim Jonas and the former two-term independent Maine Governor Angus King. Unity08 attempted to leverage online technology, such as secure voting, to allow American voters to determine the most crucial issues facing the country, discuss them with potential nominees, and participate in an online convention to nominate a bipartisan presidential ticket. In an interview that aired on The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer in May 2006, Unity08’s founders said that the group was formed in response to the polarization between the Republican and Democratic political parties. The group also cited a poll it commissioned from Princeton Survey Research and claimed that 82 percent of Americans think that the two major political parties are unable to address the country’s problems and that 73 percent of Americans are in favor of alternatives to the two parties.

The group’s status as a non-profit organization came into question when they asked the Federal Election Commission whether the group could defer registering as a political action committee until after its candidates for the 2008 presidential election were named. A draft released by the commission in July 2006 concluded that “Unity08 must register as a policy committee and therefore is subject to the reporting requirements and limitations and prohibitions.”  In October 2006, the commission voted on the matter and declared that the group must register as a political action committee.

It stated goals were….

Unity08 had four major goals:

  • Enable Americans to rank America’s most crucial issues.
  • Empower Americans to draft or evaluate Unity08 candidates and actively engage them in debate about the crucial issues.
  • Empower Americans to nominate a bipartisan Unity ticket via an online convention and secure voting process.
  • Elect the Unity08 presidential ticket to national office.

The Unity08 presidential ticket was to consist of two candidates that come from different political parties. This bipartisan team was to propose a bipartisan cabinet in an effort to end paralysis in government. Co-founder Doug Bailey explained “What we are trying to do is to create a forum for people who are in the middle who have been left out of politics.”

Here is what ‘liberal’ bloggers thought (that would be me)

Liberal bloggers also expressed frustration with Unity08 because they contend that the group promoted “establishment” centrist or center-right politicians in the molds of Joe Lieberman and Michael Bloomberg while at the same time doing little to promote the progressive values it would seemingly represent. Chris Bowers of the political blog MyDD called the group’s supporters “rich, center-right, ‘non-partisan‘ donors who trash progressives and never criticize conservatives in power,” and claimed that the movement has no grassroots support.  Other bloggers also criticized the heavy representation of lobbyists among the organization’s officers.

It failed….why?  Lack of funds for most people saw it for what it was a political scam.

Please do not fall prey to this overt bullshit by a some billionaire to hedge his vote.

I will vote for a third party but it will not be anyone of this caliber.

Any thoughts?

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The Creeping Third Party

Since Donny did what he did in the last election there have been a lot of grumbling on both sides of the aisle….now there is a story circulating about some secret meetings to counter the Donny agenda.

That will be news for another day if it is true…..but the loudest chest thumping for a third party comes from Elmo and seems for now many Americans think it is a good idea…..

It comes after the world’s richest man claimed he would launch “the America Party” in response to Donald Trump’s “One Big, Beautiful Bill,” which he described as “insane.” A disagreement over the bill between the two men led to an explosive online fallout last month.

Lawmakers voted to pass the bill Thursday and it was signed by the president Friday.

“Our country needs an alternative to the Democrat-Republican uniparty so that the people actually have a VOICE,” Musk wrote in a string of X posts Monday. “Great day for some … fireworks,” he wrote on Friday, adding two fire emojis.

Quantus Insights’ poll was conducted between June 30-July 2 among 1,000 registered voters, with a 3 percent margin of error.

The pollster highlighted that, though 40 percent of respondents were in favor of Musk’s hypothetical third party, the result was unsurprising. In 2023, a Gallup poll found that 63 percent of Americans supported an alternative third political party.

The survey also revealed clear divides across party lines and demographics, with male Republicans appearing to be the most interested in a party launched by Musk.

Some 23 percent of Republican men said they are “very likely” and 34 percent say “somewhat likely” to back the America Party, and over half (57 percent) expressed openness to Musk as a political brand.

Nearly half (47 percent) of independent men said they were likely to support the America Party.

(independent.co.uk)

Breaking news–while I was writing this the news broke that thye America Party is a done deal….

Because his people demanded it, Elon Musk posted Saturday on X, “Today, the America Party is formed to give you back your freedom.” On Friday, the billionaire had put the question to his followers on X, as he’s done with other issues, Reuters reports. His Saturday post announced the decision was a landslide. “By a factor of 2 to 1, you want a new political party and you shall have it!” Musk wrote. He’d been bringing up the possibility since his bitter split with President Trump, per Politico, most recently early this week as he attacked the tax break and spending cut legislation.

 It was only two months ago that Musk announced he was going to cut his political spending, saying he had “done enough,” Politico points out. Musk provided no details about the launch, and the party does not seem to be registered with the Federal Election Commission, per CNBC.

But he suggested a strategy for it on Friday. “One way to execute on this would be to laser-focus on just 2 or 3 Senate seats and 8 to 10 House districts,” Musk posted, per Axios. “Given the razor-thin legislative margins, that would be enough to serve as the deciding vote on contentious laws, ensuring that they serve the true will of the people.”

It appears that he has the brain child of trying to control Congress….

It is unclear what his potential new third party would stand for, and the country does notably boast several other third parties on both sides of the aisle.

However, none have been able to cut through the popularity of the two mainstream parties. That said, the success of Zohran Mamdani, a 33-year-old Democratic socialist born to Muslim-Indian parents in Uganda and raised in Queens who beat longtime establishment politician Andrew Cuomo in last month’s mayoral primary election, has seemingly threatened both parties’ bases.

Panic across the aisle has followed his win as centrists fear the rise of a true progressive potentially running the nation’s largest city. The president has even threatened to deport the self-described socialist.

The former Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) leader shared his thoughts on how to give his third party, which likely would lean center-right, staying power.

“One way to execute on this would be to laser-focus on just 2 or 3 Senate seats and 8 to 10 House districts,” the Tesla CEO wrote on X.

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/elon-musk-reveals-devious-two-1245519

Will this yet another scam like the old ‘Unity’ deal a few years back?

Most my readers know that I do not care much for either of our two parties so would I support this endeavor?

Probably not….why?

It will most likely be a centrist party I do not think that is what the country needs to move forward.

Centrism is what got us to this point….we need bold new ideas and centrist have nothing but stale antiquated crap….this country needs progress and that will not be from a centrist candidate/party.

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Cornell West For President

A mere couple of weeks before we vote so I thought I would do a little FYI…..please refrain from any snarky remarks…..once again….just FYI to let people know there is more than the pathetic two running in the 22024 election…..since the media is ignoring I thought I would do the right thing and bring the news out.

I have written many times that the last time I voted for a winner in a presidential election was 1976….and my streak may continue with the 2024 vote.

I am a weird bird for I vote my principles and not some easy out like voting for the least objectionable candidate…..and almost every time I am accused of helping elect this idiot or that…..but it is my vote and I have no one to answer to but my own conscience….so nay-sayers can piss off.

Last election season I was duped by Gabbard and I supported her as a Dem later I found out what a racist homophobe she really is…..I will try not to make that mistake again.

This next election is turning out to be dumb or dumber….no Repub nor Dem has any business being a candidate they are all as corrupted as corrupt can be.

So when the news came out of a possible third party candidate that I know and admire his work I was pleased to see that I may have a person to vote for this time around.

That person is Cornell West….

Another big name is entering the 2024 presidential race, though not for one of the two main political parties. Dr. Cornel West, the well-known progressive scholar, philosophy professor, and activist, said Monday that he will run for the nation’s top office on the People’s Party ticket, the New York Times reports. The third party was founded by Nick Brana, a member of Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign team, but Sanders himself declined a bid from the party for him to get involved before the 2020 election, in which he again ran as a Democrat. West, who has taught at Yale, Princeton, Harvard, and, currently, Union Theological Seminary, says he is concerned with “the destruction of American democracy,” and that he is more concerned about voters than other politicians, whether Democrat or Republican, Politico reports.

“Neither political party wants to tell the truth about Wall Street, about Ukraine, about the Pentagon, about big tech,” the left-wing academic said in a campaign video posted to Twitter; in the video he referenced a 2022 interview in which he called former President Trump a “neo fascist” and President Biden a “milquetoast neoliberal.” (He’s also criticized former President Obama, and Forbes says he’s a non-Marxist socialist and Christian who has supported Sanders in the past and considers himself a populist alternative to mainstream politicians.) West says he is concerned with issues including the living wage, affordable and guaranteed housing, abortion rights, universal health care, mass incarceration, and climate change. “I enter in the quest for truth, I enter in the quest for justice, and the presidency is just one vehicle to pursue that truth and justice—what I’ve been trying to do all of my life,” West said.

Like I stated so far West is along my line of thinking about the world and US position within it.

But since Gabbard I will be researching West’s positions very carefully for I will not be duped again.

Update:  Since I wrote this draft news has come out that West will seek the nomination of the Green Party.

Progressive activist Cornel West announced he is seeking the Green Party nomination for president in 2024 after declaring his candidacy for the People’s Party nomination last week. 

West said that he decided to run as a candidate for the Green Party to try to build a “broad United Front and coalition strategy.”

“In the spirit of a broad United Front and coalition strategy, I am pursuing the nomination of the Green Party for President of the United States,” West tweeted Wednesday.

He asked people to “support this unprecedented effort to empower precious poor and working people here and abroad. I thank the volunteers of the People’s Party for the initial launch!”

(thehill.com)

I have supported the Green Party in the past and may do so again….but as always I will research closely.

More updates:  West has passed on the Green Party and will run as a true independent…..

Progressive activist Cornel West said Thursday that he is no longer running for president under the Green Party banner. Instead, the high-profile African American thought leader will run as an independent.

“I’m running as an Independent candidate for President of the United States to end the iron grip of the ruling class and ensure true democracy!” West wrote on the social media platform X, formerly known as Twitter.

“People are hungry for change,” he added. “They want good policies over partisan politics. We need to break the grip of the duopoly and give power to the people.”

I like the sound of that…..party politics is what has gotten this country where it is today….screwed up!

His policies can be found here….

https://www.cornelwest2024.com/platform

For more information this is an interview with West on Democracy Now…..

https://www.democracynow.org/2023/6/7/cornel_west_2024

Have you noticed that the media has downplayed anyone other than the two candidates?

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Will RFK, Jr Make A Difference?

Recently I read where an ex-staffer for thew RFK, Jr campaign stated that the reason hew was in the race was to help elect Trump to the presidency…..so if that is truly the case how is it going so far?

It may not be working out as the campaign had planned….

Various polls and pundits have been supporting the narrative that third-party presidential runs in the upcoming election, especially the one by independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., will prove more harmful to President Biden’s reelection bid than former President Trump’s. A new survey seems to be finding just the opposite:

  • Findings: According the NBC News poll of 1,000 registered US voters from April 12 to April 16, a two-way race between Biden and Trump would leave Trump in the lead, 46% to Biden’s 44%; 10% say they’re not sure or wouldn’t vote. Add in third-party candidates RFK Jr., Jill Stein, and Cornel West to that mix, however, and Biden takes the lead over Trump, 37% to 35%. In that scenario, Kennedy brings in 13% of voters, while Stein and West earn 3% and 2%, respectively. NBC points out that “the movement the other candidates create is within the poll’s margin of error.”
  • Popularity: Part of those results may be tied to the fact that Republicans think more positively of Kennedy (40% positive, 15% negative) than Democrats (16% positive and a much higher 53% negative).
  • Biden on the attack: Per the Hill, the president’s campaign team is now taking things up a notch in its pushback against Kennedy, including with ads pointing out that most of Kennedy’s entire extended family has endorsed Biden. “The issue here is leaving nothing to chance,” a Democratic pollster told Politico last week.
  • Discrepancy: So why is this poll different from past ones? “There’s always two possibilities: One, it’s an outlier,” a GOP pollster involved with the survey tells NBC. “Or two, we’re going to be seeing more of this, and our survey is a harbinger of what’s to come.”
  • Who knows, though: In his piece for Slate last month, David Faris wrote that Biden and Trump “should both be terrified” of what third-party runs could mean for their own reelection campaigns. “The presidential election is about to get much more stressful for everybody,” Faris predicted. “Kennedy is polling better than any third-party candidate in a generation.”

I love it when a political plan goes to crap.

I remember the third party runs of Anderson and Perot….will third parties/independents be more successful than those two?

I am sure there will be others than will pull votes away from Biden….so the time to celebrate the Trump problem is not now.

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“lego ergo scribo”

‘No Labels’ Moves Forward

Now that the two major parties have their nominees and RFK, Jr is flexing his muscle other possible third parties comes out of the woodwork….the latest is the ‘unity ticket con of ‘No Labels”….

The third-party presidential movement No Labels is planning to move toward fielding a presidential candidate in the November election, even as high-profile contenders for the ticket (think Nikki Haley, Joe Manchin, Larry Hogan) won’t be running on it, two people familiar with the matter said Wednesday. After months of leaving open whether the group would offer a ticket, No Labels delegates are expected to vote Friday in favor of launching a presidential campaign for this fall’s election, according to the people familiar with the matter, who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity. No Labels will not name its presidential and vice presidential picks on Friday, when roughly 800 delegates meet virtually in a private meeting.

The group is instead expected to debut a formal selection process late next week for potential candidates who would be selected in the coming weeks, the people said. No Labels officials would not publicly confirm plans for Friday’s meeting. In a statement, senior strategist Ryan Clancy said only, “We expect our delegates to encourage the process to continue.” The two people familiar with the group noted that No Labels’ plans could change ahead of the vote. But they said there has been enthusiasm across its regional chapters for running a candidate, giving momentum to the idea of a vote on Friday.

I have written several posts on this con job going back to 2010…..

No Labels–2024

It was a con in 2010 and it is still a con….and others see this group for what it is….

With Democratic U.S. President Joe Biden expected to face former GOP President Donald Trump in the November election, No Labels on Friday confirmed it is pushing ahead with plans for a third-party “unity” ticket that critics fear could help the Republican return to the White House.

“The consequences of the next presidential election could not be more serious or more existential, and, despite this, No Labels has put their dangerous, reckless thought experiment ahead of the rights and freedoms of millions of Americans and the future of our democracy,” declared MoveOn Political Action executive director Rahna Epting. “Their decision to move forward with a dark-money, Trump donor-funded third-party fantasy bid is shameful and puts millions of Americans at risk.”

“Their own founder said they are ‘not in it to win it,’ and several current and past supporters of No Labels have implored them to stand down. And yet, they have decided to pump millions of dollars of dark money into a run that would swing the election to Donald Trump,” she warned. “Any candidates who join the No Labels presidential ticket will be complicit in making it easier for Donald Trump and MAGA extremists to win a second term in the White House.”

https://www.commondreams.org/news/no-labels-party

While I may be looking for a better place for my vote this one is not on that list at all.

Just thought you should know.

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Political Elites Are Sweating

College of Political Knowledge

2024 Election Series

I know….I know….it is early and all this may not matter….but what if it does matter?

The anti-vaxxer, RFK, Jr, is considering running as a Libertarian and if he does the political elites of both parties are beginning to take notice after being dismissive of his possible candidacy.

While many “experts” still dismiss the possibility of an independent or third-party candidate winning the election, there seems to be a bit more hand-wringing and whistling past the graveyard amongst both Democratic and Republican operatives. Most especially as there is now a possibility that Kennedy may run on the Libertarian Party ticket.

Outlined on this site earlier this week in a piece titled “RFK Jr.’s possible Libertarian bid rankles Democrats,” that possibility is duly noted. As is the growing fear of certain Democratic operatives. And trust me, it is not just Democrats who are viewing that possibility with a great deal of nervousness. It is Republicans as well.

The main reason being — as spelled out in the piece — that by becoming the standard-bearer for the Libertarian Party, Kennedy would be significantly more likely to get on state ballots, including key battleground states.

Democratic strategist Doug Gordon said, “Hijacking the Libertarian Party ballot line won’t change his odds of winning the presidency, which he has no chance at. But it does increase the odds he could play spoiler and hand the keys to the White House back to Trump.”

To paraphrase Hamlet, “Methinks the strategist doth protest too much.”

Democratic and Republican elites fear RFK Jr.’s growing path to victory

I know all you self-styled independents do not want to hear that a third party is becoming strong enough to challenge the idiots in the two parties….but there it is.

There is still a long way to go before we have the dash for the finish line in 2024….but now is the perfect time to look at candidates and possible candidates for you support.

Personally I have a problem with these anti-vaxxers and would never vote for someone so callous….it would do nothing to improve the plight of the people of this country.

But that is just me.

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Another ‘Outsider’ May Run In 2024

I have written about a few notables that may run for president outside their party…..RFK,Jr may run as an independent as well as Cornell Wes an independent as well and now another Cheney is thinking about testing the waters…..Liz is thinking about running as a third party candidate…..

As Liz Cheney makes the rounds promoting her new memoir, the former GOP congresswoman is making clear that she is still considering a third-party run for president in 2024. In an interview with the Washington Post on Monday, Cheney said she would make a decision in the next few months. “Several years ago, I would not have contemplated a third-party run,” she tells the Post. But “I happen to think democracy is at risk at home, obviously, as a result of Donald Trump’s continued grip on the Republican Party, and I think democracy is at risk internationally as well.”

  • Big factor: Cheney, who lost her seat in Congress after becoming a fierce Trump critic, tells the newspaper she would not run if she concludes doing so would draw votes from President Biden and help Trump win. “That will all be part of my calculation as we go into the early months of 2024.”
  • No Labels: If she were to run, the daughter of former VP Dick Cheney would have to do so on a third party ticket in order to ensure ballot access. She tells USA Today that she hasn’t ruled out the possibility of running on a bipartisan ticket from the independent No Labels group. “Whatever it takes,” as she told the Post.
  • A warning: Cheney also warned on the Today show that if Trump were to win reelection, he would not willingly leave office at the end of his term and instead try to install himself as a permanent president. “There’s no question,” she said. “Absolutely. He’s already done it once. … He’s already attempted to seize power, and he was stopped, thankfully, and for the good of the nation and the republic. But he said he will do it again. He’s expressed no remorse for what he did.”
  • A counter: GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham says Cheney’s warnings that Trump represents a threat to democracy are overblown. “I think Liz’s hatred of Trump is real,” he said, per the Hill. “I think a continuation of the Biden presidency would be a disaster for peace and prosperity at home and abroad,” Graham said. “Our border is broken. The only person who is really going to fix a broken border is Donald Trump. When he was president, none of this stuff was going on in Ukraine. Hamas and all these other terrorist groups were afraid of Trump.”
  • Logistics: In terms of campaign funds, Axios notes that Cheney created a super PAC after losing her House reelection race, with the goal of trying to prevent election deniers from winning office.

I am guessing this is a stunt and she has no intention of running.

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3rd Party For 2024?

We are a mere one year out from choosing our next president…..and I believe now is the time for the voter to get off their butts and start looking into the candidates and the parties.

Our country is too important to postpone decisions like these.

2 party politics is killing this country with obstruction and laziness….

As the “Big Lie” of a stolen election continues to dominate the Republican Party, GOP-controlled states enact restrictive voting laws and pursue preposterous election audits, aspiring candidates embrace the fiction of a stolen 2020 election, and a majority of GOP voters still believe Trump is the “true president,” the obvious questions follow: Where is this all headed? And is there any way out?

In one telling, the Republican Party will eventually come back to its senses and move past former President Donald Trump and Trumpist grievance politics, especially if Republicans lose a few elections in a row and realize that it’s a losing strategy. But there’s another possible outcome: More contested elections, more violence and, ultimately, a collapse into competitive authoritarianism enabled by electoral advantages that tilt in one party’s favor.

Why The Two-Party System Is Effing Up U.S. Democracy

I have had enough!

I tried to like something about the party politics but that has long since disappeared….for that reason I will work to establish a third party.

A party that actually works for the people of this country and not the cash of special interests.

Back in 2006 even before the Obama years I was calling for a viable third party….a party that could be successful if only we tried…..https://lobotero.com/2006/12/29/successful-third-party/

So you see I have been calling for a reliable third party for many decades……but after seeing what Obama brought to the table in 2008 I saw the need yet again……then back in 2010 I was working for a friend to try and generate interest in a New Bull Moose Party…..you can read about that below….

How About A “Bull Moose Party”? #1

How About A New “Bull Moose Party”? #2

I agree these are pretty long reads but I think the policies we championed would go a long way in repairing the damage done to this country by owned politicians of both parties.

Then in 2016 I reiterated my concerns and how to repair things…..https://lobotero.com/2016/05/24/a-new-national-progressive-movement/

Now with all the damage that Trump leveled on this country and its people I once again see the need for a viable third party……the key there is “viable”…..

This leaves an opening on the left for a party that represents workers, the climate and equitable society. Democrat Socialists of America’s (DSA) notion of a “dirty break” from the Democrats, where internal pressure from the left inside the democrat party eventually leads to a shift in democratic party values and actions until a “new” party forms, has no antecedent in history I can think of, and means only continued hoping the Democratic party will break from its moneyed interests, which it never will.

So, regardless of the outcome on November 3rd, Greens, socialists, DSA, et al., need to organize together in order to stand alone in 2024 to finally represent the values and interests of people and planet, as well as offer a viable alternative to the specious promises of the Democratic party and to ensure the GOP devolves into a minority party. Even if this organization ultimately serves only to force the democratic party to the left in 2024, and take away support from the GOP it will accomplish more progressive change than the United States has seen in 80 years, in spite of the absurd and Orwellian rhetoric we have heard this year of Joe Biden being as progressive as FDR.

It all may be for naught, as societal, economic and environmental incremental change may already be too late. Yet, as someone who has seen what forced change looks like, via the Iraq and Afghan wars, incremental change is the only viable form of change that won’t destroy us, unless we have already done so.

Third Party Now for 2024

We have a far Right party (GOP) and a conservative party (Dems) it is beyond time for the rise of a true progressive party, a party of the Left if you want, and the time is no better than NOW to do so.

And this is a pretty damn good idea….a People’s Party…..

Polls show that the large majority of Americans are progressive and almost two out of three Americans are now calling for a major new party. The number is even greater among young people and poor people.

Why? We want what regular people take for granted in so many other countries: single payer health care, free public college, money out of politics, an infrastructure jobs program, a $15 minimum wage, financial regulations, and more. We deserve these good things. If other countries can deliver these things, we know the richest nation on earth can too.

What’s in the way is not our ability, it’s the oligarchs who are making so much money and building so much power from the current system. They don’t want things to change. The money has corrupted both major parties. The oligarchs have, as writer Teodrose Fikre put it, “turned America into a nation of Aspen for the rich and Appalachia for the poor and working class.”

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Will the thinking people with principles within the GOP go for a third party?

The question has been asked and my answer is NO!

If anything they will go to the conservative party we already have….the Democratic Party.

Because no party holds principles that I can agree with in totality…I will work with the possibility of forming a viable third party…..the People’s Party.

Since I w2rote this draft West has decided to drop the Green Party and go it as an independent.

Any thoughts?

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The Two Parties Are What Is Wrong

As we close in on the 2024 election I want to give as much information and yes, opinions, on the trends and stumbles that society may expect.

There’s no shortage of plausible explanations for why U.S. politics has become so polarized, but many of these theories describe impossible-to-reverse trends that have played out across developed democracies, like the rise of social media and the increased political salience of globalization, immigration and urban-rural cultural divides. All of these trends are important contributors, for sure. But if they alone are driving illiberalism and hyper-partisanship in the U.S., then the problem should be consistent across all western democracies. But it isn’t.

What’s happening in the U.S. is distinct in four respects.

First, the animosity that people feel toward opposing parties relative to their own (what’s known as affective polarization in political science) has grown considerably over the last four decades. According to a June 2020 paper from economists Levi Boxell, Matthew Gentzkow and Jesse M. Shapiro, the increase in affective polarization in the U.S. is the greatest compared to that of eight other OECD countries over the same time period.

Second, the change in how Americans feel about their party and other parties has been driven by a dramatic decrease in positive feelings toward the opposing party. In most (though not all) of the nine democracies, voters have become a little less enthusiastic about their own parties. But only in the U.S. have partisans turned decidedly against the other party.

Third, more so than in other countries, Americans report feeling isolated from their own party. When asked to identify both themselves and their favored party on an 11-point scale in a 2012 survey, Americans identified themselves as, on average, 1.3 units away from the party that comes closest to espousing their beliefs, according to an analysis from political scientist Jonathan Rodden. This gap is the highest difference Rodden found among respondents in comparable democracies. This isolation matters, too, because it means that parties can’t count on enthusiasm from their own voters — instead, they must demonize the political opposition in order to mobilize voters.

Fourth, and perhaps most significant, in the U.S., one party has become a major illiberal outlier: The Republican Party. Scholars at the V-Dem Institute at the University of Gothenburg in Sweden have been monitoring and evaluating political parties around the world. And one big area of study for them is liberalism and illiberalism, or a party’s commitment (or lack thereof) to democratic norms prior to elections. And as the chart below shows, of conservative, right-leaning parties across the globe, the Republican Party has more in common with the dangerously authoritarian parties in Hungary and Turkey than it does with conservative parties in the U.K. or Germany.

(fivethirtyeight.com)

All that aside what is needed in America is a third choice….but before all the nay-sayers jump in….read on….

A study shows the American voter is dissatisfied with our choices for governing elites….time for a third party?

A study by the Pew Research center found that 61% of U.S. adults today find the Republican Party unfavorable, while 57% shared the same sentiment toward the Democratic Party. About a quarter of Americans say they have an unfavorable view of both major parties, a considerable jump from just 6% in 1994.

Some experts suggest that the two-party system could be blamed for the political polarization we find in America.

“It’s a two-party system and you have to pick one side or the other,” said Lee Drutman, a senior fellow at New America. “If we are in a situation in which one party believes that the other party winning the election would be so disastrous to the country that maybe we should intervene to prevent the other party from winning, then you don’t really have a democracy anymore.”

More than half — 56% of Americans — believe the current parties do such a poor job that a third major party is needed, according to a survey by Gallup. Indeed, minor parties are seeing an uptick in support and interest in recent years.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/03/increasingly-dissatisfied-voters-favor-getting-a-third-party-choice.html

Seriously?  The voter does not have the guts to vote third party.

Let’s be honest….the choices are pretty slim for the election of 2024….the GOP is choke full of batcrap crazies and the Dems are as useless as tits on a flashlight…..so what to do with your vote?

A presidential candidate from 2020 Andrew Yang and a bunch of disgruntle GOPers have come up with the idea that things are so bad for the two parties that another centrist big business party would be an excellent idea (a proposition that I do not agree with)…..

I made my thoughts known when the announcement was made….

A New Third Party (Here We Go Again)

I do not think this has a chance……and I am not alone…..

Dozens of former Republicans and Democrats have joined forces to launch Forward, a new centrist political party. Its founders include Andrew Yang, the onetime Democratic presidential candidate; Christine Todd Whitman, the former Republican governor of New Jersey; and David Jolly, a former GOP congressman from Florida.

“Political extremism is ripping our nation apart, and the two major parties have failed to remedy the crisis,” Yang, Whitman, and Jolly wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post.In the last two years, there has been a “spike in political intimidation,” they said, and “if nothing is done, the United States will not reach its 300th birthday this century in recognizable form.” The op-ed cited a 2021 Gallup poll that found half of U.S. adults identify as independent and 62 percent believe the Democratic and Republican parties “do such a poor job representing the American people that a third party is needed.”

“That’s why we are coming together — Democrats, Republicans, and independents — to build a new, unifying political party for the majority of Americans who want to move past divisiveness and reject extremism,” Yang, Whitman, and Jolly wrote. They didn’t share any of Forward’s policies. On the party’s website, it lists its core principles as “free people,” “thriving communities,” and “vibrant democracy,” and says it supports ranked-choice voting, nonpartisan primaries, and independent redistricting commissions.

https://theweek.com/third-parties/1015513/does-americas-newest-political-party-stand-a-chance

This will just be a redo of the Dem Party of 1992….and we are living with the damage the Dems did in the 1990s onward…..we do not need another crappy future…..

Remember this–If you elect clowns, you get a circus and so fat the voter has helped create the world’s largest sh*t show

We need a third party but not a carbon copy of the two we have now….we need a party that is truly committed to progress….and that is something I will not see in the lifetime I have left.

I will re-post this when we get into the meat of the next election.

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A New Third Party (Here We Go Again)

All the bigotry and hatred has divided this country into opposing units…..former Repubs and Dems have decided to try and form a third party……

Dozens of former Republican and Democratic officials announced on Wednesday a new national political third party to appeal to millions of voters they say are dismayed with what they see as America’s dysfunctional two-party system.

The new party, called Forward and whose creation was first reported by Reuters, will initially be co-chaired by former Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang and Christine Todd Whitman, the former Republican governor of New Jersey. They hope the party will become a viable alternative to the Republican and Democratic parties that dominate U.S. politics, founding members told Reuters.

The new party is being formed by a merger of three political groups that have emerged in recent years as a reaction to America’s increasingly polarized and gridlocked political system. The leaders cited a Gallup poll last year showing a record two-thirds of Americans believe a third party is needed.

The merger involves the Renew America Movement, formed in 2021 by dozens of former officials in the Republican administrations of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush and Donald Trump; the Forward Party, founded by Yang, who left the Democratic Party in 2021 and became an independent; and the Serve America Movement, a group of Democrats, Republicans and independents whose executive director is former Republican congressman David Jolly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-former-republicans-democrats-form-new-third-us-political-party-2022-07-27/

My thoughts…Yang is a techie and is a business man….this new party will be a big business party….we already have two of those we do not need another.

I will give them the benefit of the doubt and wait for an official platform before I go full monty on them.

This is NOTHING new……anyone remember Unity08 or AmericansElect2012….both we a team up of GOPers and Dems….they were con jobs….read what I wrote back then….

Yes, We Have No Third Party Today

Please tell me the Yang is not doing this just to keep his hat in the ring…..I mean he lost the NYC race….

I believe we definitely need a good third party apart from the crap of the corrupt two we have now….but right now I do not think this is it…..we need a true Progressive party…..a Bull Moose Party…..(i wrote about this in 2010…will you listen now?)

How About A “Bull Moose Party”? #1

How About A New “Bull Moose Party”? #2

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