2020 Dem Debate #10

This is the last chance voters will get to hear from these candidates before Super Tuesday, 3 March…..

But first here is a thought…..our forever wars has made little appearance thanks to the corporate control of these debates….so a few facts before I go to the analysis of this debate….

Donald Trump’s tax scam will cost $2.3 trillion over the next 10 years—with the lion’s share going to the top 1%.

George W. Bush’s tax cuts cost over $4 trillion over the same time frame.

And since 2001, our forever wars in the Middle East have cost nearly $6 trillion.

You wouldn’t know any of that from watching CNN or Meet the Press. And yet every time a presidential candidate supports Medicare for All or the Green New Deal, the corporate media want to know exactly how every red cent will be paid for.

Just a thought.

Now on to the night of debate…….

And the dumbest question of the night was the one about the filibuster rule change…..(more to come)…..

Now thoughts on the debate last night…..

Seven Democrats took part in a fiery debate in South Carolina Tuesday night—one more than in last week’s primary debate. Tom Steyer joined Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg, and Michael Bloomberg in the Charleston debate, co-hosted by CBS News and the Congressional Black Caucus Institute. Analysts expected Sanders, the frontunner, to be a target and in the opening minutes, the senator was attacked by Bloomberg over reports that Russia plans interference to help his candidacy, by Biden over his record on guns, by Buttigieg for being divisive, and by Warren for his team “trashing” her after she “put in the work” on reining in Wall Street, Politico reports. “I’m hearing my name mentioned a little bit tonight. I wonder why,” Sanders quipped. Some highlights:

  • After Bloomberg said Russia was supporting Sanders so he could lose to President Trump, Sanders directly addressed the Russian president. “Mr. Putin, if I’m President of the United States, trust me, you’re not going to interfere in any more American elections,” he said.
  • Biden was asked about polls that show his support among black voters is falling ahead of South Carolina’s Feb. 29 primary, the Guardian reports. “I’ve worked like the devil to earn the vote of the African-American community,” Biden said. Asked if he would continue his campaign if he loses the state, Biden said: “I will win South Carolina.”
  • When addressing Bloomberg’s “stop-and-frisk” policy as New York City mayor, Buttigieg admitted that his own record as mayor of South Bend had shortcomings and said: “I’m conscious of the fact that there are seven white people on this stage talking about racial justice.”
  • Bloomberg was visibly angry after Warren said he once told a pregnant employee to “kill it.” “I never said it. Period,” he said. Warren also slammed Bloomberg for donating to Republican candidates. “Who funded Lindsey Graham’s campaign for re-election last time? It was Mayor Bloomberg,” she said. “He is the riskiest candidate standing on this stage.”
  • Klobuchar and Steyer both attacked the cost of Sanders’ proposals, saying Democratic voters would not support massive spending increases, the Washington Post reports. “The math does not add up,” Klobuchar said.
  • Biden criticized Steyer for investing in private prisons. When the billionaire said he no longer supported them, Biden gave him a Trump-style nickname: “Tommy come lately.”
  • Asked about his record on gun control, Sanders was booed when he tried to start criticizing Biden’s record on trade deals, the Guardian reports. Sanders admitted there were some “bad votes” on his record but stressed that he only had a D-plus record from the NRA.
  • Biden vowed to take on the NRA. “If I’m elected, NRA, I’m coming for you, and gun manufacturers, I’m going to take you on and I’m going to beat you,” said Biden, who claimed, incorrectly, that gun violence has killed 150 million Americans since 2007.
  • Warren and Buttigieg both targeted Sanders for his opposition to changing Senate rules to stop legislation being filibuster, the New York Times reports. “How are we going to support a revolution, if you don’t even support a rule change?” Buttigieg asked.
  • Tom Steyer got some cheers when he said he was the only candidate onstage that supported reparations for slavery. The policy is one that he mentions “when he’s asked why he’s doing so well among black voters in South Carolina,” FiveThirtyEight notes.
  • As the debate became increasingly bad-tempered, with candidates desperate for speaking time talking over each other, Buttigieg was asked to “honor the rules of the debate.”
  • Bloomberg, seeming slightly more relaxed than he was in last week’s debate, cracked a joke when asked about New York’s anti-obesity tax on sugary drinks, CBS reports. “What’s right for New York City isn’t right for every other city, otherwise we’d have a naked cowboy in every city,” he said.
  • Bloomberg said he supported decriminalizing marijuana because the “cat is out of the bag,” but said legalization should go slowly because “until we know the science, it’s just nonsensical to push ahead.”
  • On the coronavirus outbreak—which Bloomberg was the first candidate to bring up, more than an hour in—Biden stressed that he had been part of the administration that dealt with the Ebola outbreak. Klobuchar advised worried viewers to check the CDC’s website.
  • When asked whether she would allow China to build parts of America’s infrastructure, Warren pivoted to attacking Bloomberg. “We know that Mayor Bloomberg has been doing business with China for a long time, and he is the only one on this stage who has not released his taxes,” she said.
  • Asked about his remarks on Fidel Castro’s education policy, Sanders said he rejected authoritarianism and he had merely been making the same point Barack Obama did, the Times reports. Biden said his former boss “did not in any way suggest that there was anything positive about the Cuban government.”
  • Sanders, who would be the first Jewish president, called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a “reactionary racist” and said he would consider moving America’s embassy back to Tel Aviv. US foreign policy should ensure the “independence and security of Israel, but you cannot ignore the suffering of the Palestinian people,” he said.
  • The final question was a two-parter: Candidates were asked what the biggest misconception about them was, and what their motto is. Klobuchar said the biggest misconception about her is that she is boring. Warren said one misconception “is that I don’t eat very much because I eat all the time.” Bloomberg joked about his height, while Biden promised to put a black woman on the Supreme Court.

All in all the game plan that the media had set about to create was followed to the letter by the candidates.

The night was a waste of time…..but the moderators did what they set out to do….have the candidates assassinate their opponents….the voter learned nothing new or for that matter anything at all.  I am still waiting for a substantial conversation n immigration…..a little in Nevada but now…..(sound of crickets)….

I did like Biden’s Reagan-esque attempt to look tough…..it failed.

But if you need a winner and losers then this should help……

  • Joe Biden. The former vice president was among the winners, analysts say. South Carolina is a must-win for him, and he “kept his hopes alive with one of his strongest debate performances,” writes Niall Stanage at the Hill. Biden—”sharper and more vigorous” than in previous debates—sought to portray himself as someone with the political and strategic chops to get things done rather than merely talk about aspirations,” Stanage writes.
  • Bernie Sanders. This was not the senator’s strongest debate performance, but facing a barrage of attacks from rivals, he held his own well enough to be considered a winner. “As the primary’s commanding frontrunner, Sanders’s chief objective Tuesday night was to exit with only mild bruising and limited blood loss. And he met that goal,” writes Eric Levitz at New York. “The sheer messiness of the proceedings … allowed the Vermont senator to escape without suffering any viral humiliation or headline-worthy blow,” he writes.
  • Elizabeth Warren. The senator made it into most lists of debate winners with a performance considered strong, but not the game-changer she needs. “She was dominant in last week’s debate “but she did not replicate that performance, and some strategists criticized her decision to once again focus on Mr. Bloomberg instead of the front-runner, Mr. Sanders,” writes Maggie Astor at the New York Times. “But she did have several strong moments, and commentators praised her ability to cut through the free-for-all onstage.”
  • Pete Buttigieg. The former South Bend mayor received mixed reviews, though Chris Cillizza at CNN ranks him among the winners. “He found several occasions to make direct contrasts with Bernie Sanders—most notably on the dangers for Democrats of nominating a democratic socialist and the differences in their health care plans—which is a win in and of itself,” Cillizza writes
  • Amy Klobuchar. Klobuchar had a reasonably good night, analysts say—but not on a par with her New Hampshire debate performance, and probably not good enough to keep her campaign alive for much longer. “Klobuchar had a good night,” Geoffrey Skelley writes at FiveThirtyEight. “She looked competent and knowledgeable about a host of issues. She also made some appeals to the African-American community, which were very important given her almost nonexistent support among that voting bloc.”
  • Michael Bloomberg. The former New York City mayor turned in a slightly better performance than last week—but it wasn’t enough to keep him out of the losers’ column. “Bloomberg did little to make an affirmative case for himself, even on the electability front,” writes Aaron Blake at the Washington Post. And he offered mealy-mouthed rebuttals to some of the attacks against him, including again downplaying the women who complained about their treatment at his companies.
  • Tom Steyer. “The commentariat didn’t have much bad to say about Mr. Steyer,” Astor notes at the Times. “But the hard truth was that they didn’t really have much to say about him at all.”

For me the biggest loser was Bloomberg…he still cannot grasp the idea of a debate.

The winner was Bernie….he took flak all over the stage and still did not lose his composure….the rest were just typical blah blah blah…….

Not to worry there is more to come.

A thought–the whole debate process should be reformed to the point of outlawing slogans and theatrics…..to a real debate not a regurgitation of talking points.

Saturday’s South Carolina vote and then next Tuesday is the Super Tuesday vote…..

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Closing Thought–25Feb20

First let me say Happy Mardi Gras!

Debate Night!

There will be 7 or so Dem candidates on the stage for the debate tonight……and of those there only Bernie is flush with cash……(sorry about that I was ignoring the billionaires buying their way forward)….

At a time in the race when running a presidential campaign is getting more expensive, many of the Democrats remaining have less money. After being camped in Iowa for what seemed like ages, the candidates now have multiple, scattered primaries ahead. And on top of competing with Bernie Sanders’ fundraising surge, they now face a billionaire climbing in the polls who can spend as much as is needed. Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, and Elizabeth Warren are nearly out of cash, Politico reports. Financial disclosures filed Thursday night show Biden down to $7.1 million, Buttigieg with $6.6 million, Klobuchar at $2.9 million, and Warren having just $2.3 million. At the other end is Sanders, who has close to $17 million. For January, the candidates raised $58 million in total and spent nearly $357 million, per the Hill.

The struggling candidates are taking steps. Buttigieg, who raised $6.1 million in January but spent more than twice that, asked supporters this week to kick in another $13 million by Super Tuesday on March 3. “We are now also up against a billionaire who is throwing colossal sums of money on television instead of doing the work of campaigning,” he wrote, referring to Michael Bloomberg. Tom Steyer also is funding his own campaign. Warren has taken out a $3 million line of credit, though she had a strong month in January, collecting $10.2 million. The problem was that she spent twice what she took in. With the new need to buy ads in 14 states, super PACs are stepping in, as well. A new one, Persist PAC, lined up more than $1 million worth of ads this week for Warren.

Most of these candidates……are depending on South Carolina to give them a bump and some much needed cash infusions.

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Can Amy Win In 2020?

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#7 of series

One of the few women that remains in the 2020 Dem field is Amy Klobuchar….lots of back and forth can she win? Or can she?

In the last Dem debate Amy said that thanks to her the voter turn out in Minnesota was large…..was it?

In her opening shot at Wednesday’s Democratic primary debate, Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) claimed credit for Minnesota’s high voter turnout, citing it as evidence of her ability to beat Donald Trump. “I am the one on this stage that had the highest voter turnout of any state in the country when I led the ticket,” she said.

It’s true that Minnesota topped the list for voter turnout nationally in 2018 when Klobuchar ran for re-election. But Minnesota voters also led the country in voter turnout in 2016, when Klobuchar wasn’t on the ticket. (That year, Minnesota regained its regular position on top of the chart from a blip in 2014, when it fell to sixth.)

No, Amy Klobuchar Is Not Responsible for Minnesota’s High Voter Turnout

Back to the original question…..can Amy win in 2020?  (This analysis is from Vox)…..

the best case for the leading Democratic candidates. This article is the the sixth in the series. Read them all here. Vox does not endorse individual candidates.

The case for Sen. Amy Klobuchar comes down to three words: the Electoral College.

Any Democrat up against President Donald Trump this fall won’t be able to count on winning the most votes to take the White House — the nominee will have to beat the convoluted map that heavily favors rural areas, and thus Republicans.

Hillary Clinton won nearly 3 million more votes than Trump in 2016, but her losses in Rust Belt states like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania arguably cost her the Electoral College. Whoever runs against Trump will want to put these once-blue states back in the Democratic column, and they’ll have to win over rural voters to do it.

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/21/21133969/case-for-amy-klobuchar-electoral-college-democrats

That is the “word” on the street.

She will not get past Super Tuesday if she bombs in South Carolina and so far does not look good for her in that Southern state with a largely black electorate…..

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All Those Immigration Promises

I am sure that as the 2020 general kicks off then immigration will be more in the news than now…..so let’s look at the topic.

2016 election had Trump promising to end immigration and he had so many plans that he promised he would get on on day one (damn I hate that statement)…..

Does anyone remember all the promises? (Wait here for thought and an answer…..Hahahaha….like that will happen)

How many have been kept?

Yes I know he has started building a wall we do not need……but what abut the others?

Luckily you do not have to use your intellect or Google…..I have the answer ………

President Donald Trump has promised to make big changes on immigration since he was a candidate.

“The truth is our immigration system is worse than anybody ever realized,” the president said.

Among them, build a southern border wall, remove undocumented immigrants, cancel funding for sanctuary cities and other sanctuary jurisdictions, suspend immigration from certain countries, limit legal immigration, and end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

We’ll cover the border wall and DACA in separate stories, but here’s a closer look at some of these other promises.

“There are vast numbers of additional criminal illegal immigrants who have fled, but their days have run out in this country. The crime will stop. They’re going to be gone. It will be over,” the president said.

On the campaign trail, President Trump said he’d remove all undocumented immigrants from the U.S., especially those who had committed crimes. Pew Research estimated there were about 10.5 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. in 2017.

https://www.newsy.com/stories/trump-has-had-a-lot-of-immigration-plans-here-s-where-they-are/

In Trump’s defense….he is NOT the only president to promise and fail to deliver…..most times it was just a way to convince people to vote for them and they never had any intention of carrying the promises forward.

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The Trump Second Term?

This ought to get some of my Trump supporters into a better mood…..

I know that this could be the horror scenario for some…..but sadly too many pundits are seeing the second term as a more likely scenario than not.

This prediction from the Hill….

I’m not a professional political analyst, so my political analysis is worth about what you pay for it. However, a few people who know that I called Donald Trump as the 2016 winner, starting back in 2015, have asked me what I think now.  

My prediction for the 2016 race was based on a variety of observational and anecdotal evidence. I listened to Democrats, Republicans and independents across the U.S. I talked to people who consider themselves apolitical. I heard from taxi and Uber drivers, the Verizon man, stay-at-home moms, college grads, professionals, blue-collar delivery workers. And I watched nearly every rally of Trump and his opponents. 

Now, that same unscientific methodology has led me to conclude that Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his main opponent turns out to be.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/483344-why-trump-has-already-secured-a-second-term-no-matter-who-his-opponent-is

Is it his undying support from the American people of could other forces be at work……say….cyber forces…..

The letter, dated February 11, says that between May and July 2019, personal data may have been compromised “in a data breach” of a system hosted by the Defence Information Systems Agency.

The agency provides direct telecommunications and IT support for President Donald Trump, Vice-President Mike Pence, their staff and the US Secret Service, according to its website.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3051674/us-agency-responsible-donald-trumps-secure

Could the break down in cyber security help others to influence the electorate?

Players….like….Russia?

American intelligence officials told House lawmakers last week that Russia already is interfering in the presidential campaign in an effort to see President Trump reelected. Republican and Democratic members of the House Intelligence Committee attended the meeting on what a Democratic official called a briefing on “the integrity of our upcoming elections,” the New York Times reports. Lawmakers were told that this time, Russia also plans to interfere with the Democratic presidential primaries. The plan includes attacking election infrastructure, per CNN, as well as hacking and weaponizing social media.

Trump was angry that the briefing was held, concerned that Democrats would use Russia’s interference against him in the campaign. He was especially irked that Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff heard the intelligence officials’ finding. Republicans at the briefing challenged the conclusion, saying Trump has been tough on Russia. “I’d challenge anyone to give me a real-world argument where Putin would rather have President Trump and not Bernie Sanders,” Chris Stewart of Utah said in an interview later. In addition to securing Trump’s reelection, the intelligence officials said, Russia wants to instill doubt about the integrity of the election.

I know….it is that Russia thing yet again…..

Think about it…if the Dems do lose the election (God forbid) then they will need someone to blame and who is a better bad guy than Russia.

Not to worry…Trump has him some stoolies in Congress to keep him in the loop….

The top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee denied reports that Russia was intervening in the 2020 presidential campaign to support Donald Trump’s reelection.

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) was interviewed by Laura Ingraham on Fox News about the breaking news on Russia.

“A senior U.S. intelligence official told lawmakers last week that Russia wants to see President Trump reelected, viewing his administration as more favorable to the Kremlin’s interests, according to people who were briefed on the comments,” The Washington Post reported Thursday. “Trump learned about Pierson’s remarks from Rep. Devin Nunes (Calif.), the committee’s ranking Republican and a staunch Trump ally, said one person familiar with the matter.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/devin-nunes-denies-russia-is-intervening-in-the-2020-election-to-support-trumps-reelection/

Then there are those pundits on the MSM that will push for a second term for Trump…..millionaire pundits like MSNBC’s Matthews……

As Sen. Bernie Sanders appeared headed for a decisive victory Saturday in the Nevada caucuses, MSNBC host Chris Matthews pondered whether President Donald Trump’s re-election might be better for the Democratic establishment than the Vermont senator’s multiracial, multigenerational movement taking over the party.

“I’m wondering if Democratic moderates want Bernie Sanders to be President?” said Matthews. “Maybe that’s too exciting a question to raise. Do they want Bernie to take over the Democratic Party in perpetuity? Maybe they’d rather wait 4 years and put in a Democrat that they like.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/msnbcs-chris-matthews-suggests-four-more-years-of-trump-might-be-better-for-democratic-party/

Matthews has always been a bit of a political coward.

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Pro And Con Of Mayor Pete

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#8 in Series

Mayor Pete is having a good couple of weeks…..first in Iowa then in New Hampshire and had a pretty good debate….but now he is getting more scrutiny than before.

Still early in the process but there is a saga being presented for Mayor Pete…Pro and Con……

Let’s start with the “Pro”…….

The begin with the source of this article is a conserv site that supports Trump mostly….take it for what it is…..

The Democratic primary has rapidly devolved into a bitter squabble between 78-year-old socialist Bernie Sanders and 78-year-old billionaire Michael Bloomberg. Former vice president and 77-year-old train enthusiast Joe Biden is also technically running. The self-described “party of the future” appears to be doing everything in its power to ensure a second term for President Donald J. Trump.

The most youthful Democrat with a realistic shot at the nomination is Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of Indiana’s fourth-largest city who won’t shut up about the time he studied abroad in Afghanistan. He’s riding high after strong finishes in Iowa and New Hampshire but is in for a rude awakening once the voting starts in states that aren’t dominated by his core demographic of wealthy whites with graduate degrees and West Wing fetishes.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/hillary-young-healthy-winner/

Now for some anti Mayor Pete news……

This is from FOX News (do I need to tell your where their loyalties lie?)….and interview with Mayor Pete’s brother-in-law……

Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg‘s brother-in-law, Pastor Rhyan Glezman, slammed the Democratic hopeful for his comments Tuesday night, when the candidate claimed he doesn’t see “any compatibility” between supporting President Trump and the teachings in Scripture after declaring that God “does not belong to a political party.”

“Yeah, in the height of intellectual dishonesty for Pete to make claims that there’s no compatibility with being a Christian and voting for Trump, [when] Pete, in fact, is the one who is pushing agendas and rhetoric that is against, clearly against Scripture,” Glezman said on “Tucker Carlson Tonight

https://www.foxnews.com/media/buttigieg-brother-in-law-pastor-rhyan-glezman

Neither of these stories do I agree with in any shape or form……all of it sounds more like oppo research for the Trump camp in the upcoming general election

After the Nevada vote Mayor Pete is acting like the spoiled child candidate….he lost but he will not go on until his little tantrum is over…..

Pete Buttigieg’s campaign has a few requests of a Nevada State Democratic Party “in light of material irregularities” in state caucuses still being tallied, CNN reports. The campaign asks the party to “release early vote and in-person vote totals by precinct,” “correct any outstanding second alignment errors identified by presidential campaigns,” and “explain anomalies in the data.” Team Buttigieg is the first to doubt the Nevada results that—with 60% of precincts counted—have Sen. Bernie Sanders ahead with a crushing 46%, followed by Joe Biden (19.6%), Buttigieg (15.3%), Sen. Elizabeth Warren (10.1%), and Sen. Amy Klobuchar (4.8%), per the New York Times.

So this is about challenging Biden for second rather than Sanders for first, as the Buttigieg letter makes clear. But does it hold any water? Politico notes there’s been talk of some precinct volunteers and voters getting confused about how Nevada’s early voting was included in individual precinct results. It was also the state caucuses’ first try at early voting, and nearly 75,000 took part. Meanwhile, state party official Molly Forgey has responded thusly to the Buttigieg letter: “We never indicated we would release a separate breakdown of early vote and in-person attendees by precinct and will not change our reporting process now,” she writes in part. “As laid out in our recount guidance, there is a formal method for requesting a challenge of results.”

You lost in Nevada just move on to South Carolina.

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Outta Cash?

The Dem have been running hard and now that a billionaire has come to call they need to spend even more money on votes…..

Looks most 0f the 2020 Dem candidates are running low on cash…..all except Bernie….that is……

At a time in the race when running a presidential campaign is getting more expensive, many of the Democrats remaining have less money. After being camped in Iowa for what seemed like ages, the candidates now have multiple, scattered primaries ahead. And on top of competing with Bernie Sanders’ fundraising surge, they now face a billionaire climbing in the polls who can spend as much as is needed. Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, and Elizabeth Warren are nearly out of cash, Politico reports. Financial disclosures filed Thursday night show Biden down to $7.1 million, Buttigieg with $6.6 million, Klobuchar at $2.9 million, and Warren having just $2.3 million. At the other end is Sanders, who has close to $17 million. For January, the candidates raised $58 million in total and spent nearly $357 million, per the Hill.

The struggling candidates are taking steps. Buttigieg, who raised $6.1 million in January but spent more than twice that, asked supporters this week to kick in another $13 million by Super Tuesday on March 3. “We are now also up against a billionaire who is throwing colossal sums of money on television instead of doing the work of campaigning,” he wrote, referring to Michael Bloomberg. Tom Steyer also is funding his own campaign. Warren has taken out a $3 million line of credit, though she had a strong month in January, collecting $10.2 million. The problem was that she spent twice what she took in. With the new need to buy ads in 14 states, super PACs are stepping in, as well. A new one, Persist PAC, lined up more than $1 million worth of ads this week for Warren.

I have been saying that some will not last past South Carolina but the mass exodus will be after Super Tuesday, 3 of March…..

Soon the candidate count will be down to a more manageable total….one the media can run with in their attempt to influence the voter.

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