Secession Again?

Closing Thought–06Jan21

Keeping with the tone of the day……

WE all know about the last time parts of the US decided to secede and it did not end well for those that broke away…….and the calls for secession again became loud…..https://lobotero.com/2012/12/03/secession-fever-2/

Then the electoral college went and elected the provocateur Trump in 2016 and the calls for secession grew even louder….championed by the man elected to the office…..https://lobotero.com/2018/04/29/secession-is-still-popular/

During Trump’s tenure as president the calls for secession and civil war have grown at an alarming pace……and now that he has lost the 2020 election and he and his minions try to overturn the vote the calls again are increasing for secession the possibility of a civil war…..

Right-wing figures online are now toying with the ultimate act of resistance against Joe Biden’s win over Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election: secession and civil war. The  idea has picked up steam in the past few days, thanks to a boost it got from talk radio host and Medal of Freedom recipient Rush Limbaugh.

Limbaugh made waves on Wednesday when he said, “I actually think that we’re trending toward secession.” I see more and more people asking what in the world do we have in common with the people who live in, say, New York?”

Limbaugh also added: “I see a lot of bloggers … have written extensively about how distant and separated and how much more separated our culture is becoming politically and that it can’t go on this way. ” There cannot be a peaceful coexistence of two completely different theories of life, theories of government, theories of how we manage our affairs. We can’t be in this dire a conflict without something giving somewhere along the way.”

But after Limbaugh’s comment gained media attention, he claimed on Thursday that he was not in any sense advocating for secession or civil war. Rather, he said, he was just describing something that he’d been hearing about from others, because of how divided the country is.

https://www.mediamatters.org/rush-limbaugh/talk-secession-and-civil-war-increasing-far-right

Then there are those state senators that want to use the military to annul the election by declaring martial law…..

… two Republican state senators, Bob Steinburg of North Carolina and Amanda F. Chase of Virginia, through public Facebook posts and in subsequent interviews, have declared that President Donald Trump should suspend civil liberties and declare martial law in order to stay in power. Both state senators have repeated Trump’s baseless claims of widespread election fraud and various other right-wing conspiracies. Steinburg was reelected to the statehouse this past year, while Chase is running for governor of Virginia.

In a Facebook post on Tuesday, Steinburg reiterated comments made earlier this month by retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, suggesting Trump invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807, deploy soldiers and suspend habeas corpus. In an interview with WRAL Tuesday night, Steinburg alleged he was just “putting out there options that others say still remain on the table,” although he later added that he would welcome a coup, insinuating a vast conspiracy was working against Trump.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/12/17/elec-d17.html

Will these traitorous dicks get their way?

Will we have another civil war?

Or is it just cowards and the spineless venting and pouting because their dictator lost?

Think about a little American history…the Hartford Convention…..

U.S. history, a secret meeting in Hartford, Connecticut, of Federalist delegates from Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Vermont who were dissatisfied with Pres. James Madison’s mercantile policies and the progress of the War of 1812 (“Mr. Madison’s War”), as well as long resentful over the balance of political power that gave the South, particularly Virginia, effective control of the national government.

The more extreme delegates raised the possibility of secession, but others sought only to dictate amendments to the Constitution that would protect their interests. Ultimately, the convention adopted a strong states’ rights position and expressed its grievances in a series of resolutions against military conscription and commercial regulations (along with some stringent criticisms of Madison’s administration) that were agreed to on January 4, 1815.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Hartford-Convention

So you see the idea of secession of the 1850-60s is not a mew concept to Americans…

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17 thoughts on “Secession Again?

  1. I doubt you will have another civil war. However, there are times that I feel (many times) that America should have been two countries after 1865. (Or before)
    Best wishes, Pete.

  2. Murica Fuck Yeah? Apparently, people aren’t allowed to burn flags but you can basically commit treason and you’re a hero. Remember when the Republicans decided to bring over Bibi Netanyahu to bash Obama. That should have been where we drew the line in the sand.

  3. With most states being purple to some extent, I’d love to know how they think they’re gonna divvy it up. Texas is huge–I’m sure some parts of it are willing to go but others would rather stay, lest we become a Dominionist little republic down here.
    Sheesh–this is crazy and stupid talk. I’m sure a big chunk of the country wouldn’t mind if Texas left. Might be better for ’em if they did, or at least their kids. If Texas is it’s own country, then a third of the kids won’t be getting textbooks written by our moronic textbook board.

    Oh wait, I’m supposed to be insisting secession is a bad thing for the country, not a plus. Damn, I need my coffee. Not up for it today.

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