Senate Impeachment Trial Plan

History will be made today!

I really do not give a crap what you think of the president….this post is about the plan from the Senate……

Today begins the historic trial for the impeachment of the the president…..McConnell has set the plan for running this trial…..

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell plans to seek a speedy impeachment trial of President Trump. In a Senate resolution released Monday evening, the AP reports, McConnell detailed the structure for the trial’s opening phase, with votes on witnesses deferred until next week. The resolution would permit Trump’s lawyers to move early on to win acquittal of the president and sets up a vote next week on calling witnesses. Below is the way the trial would go under McConnell’s plan.

First fight: McConnell’s resolution does not specifically allow for witnesses to testify, and Democrats promise to try to guarantee that witnesses, documents and other evidence are part of the trial. Any debate on these topics must be conducted in closed session under the Senate’s impeachment rules.

Initial motions: After the Senate adopts the organizing resolution, which will consume Tuesday, the legal teams for Trump and the House on Wednesday will be able to offer motions on housekeeping questions involving matters other than evidence or witnesses. In theory, Trump’s team could move to dismiss the case altogether.

Opening arguments: House impeachment managers will have 24 hours—packed into only two days—to make their opening arguments. The White House will have the same amount of time to respond, though Trump’s lawyers may not use it all.

Questions: Sixteen hours will be reserved for senators to ask questions of both legal teams. Those questions will be posed in writing through Chief Justice John Roberts, who will preside.

Witnesses: The issue of whether to call witnesses and which ones to call will be considered with up to four hours of argument by the White House and House Democrats. The Senate may go into closed session to debate further and then have a series of votes. If witnesses are called, they will be deposed before any potential live Senate testimony.

The verdict: After the Senate finishes deliberations, it will vote on the two impeachment articles, which requires a two-thirds vote to find Trump guilty and remove him from office.

There is the plan…..

I think there should be one minor adjustment…..all those Senators that went before the public and stated that they had already made up their minds should recuse themselves for violating the oath and the rules of a fair trial.

I will be giving a running tally of the trial……

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Historic Impeachment Begins!

Just a quick look at the process……(please comment on the process not the popularity of the accused)…..

Just a short reminder of what a fair and impartial process will look like…..

Article I of the Constitution grants the House the sole power of impeachment, and if the House does impeach, the Senate the “sole power to try all impeachments.” It also provides that the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court will preside if the trial involves a president. The Constitution authorizes the Senate to “determine the rules of its proceedings,” including additional rules governing an impeachment trial by the Senate. The Senate has established and may modify its own rules supplementing these constitutional requirements.

Four principles for conducting a full, transparent, and fair impeachment trial:

  • Trial procedures should be established before the trial commences. A trial can only be fair if the rules are agreed to in advance. For that reason, any supplemental rules or modifications to the existing rules should be agreed to before the trial commences.
  • The Senate should hear the full case before voting on the President’s removal. The Senate must allow members of the House to present the case for the President’s removal and the President should be afforded an opportunity to respond. Both should occur before a vote to dispose of or approve an article of impeachment.
  • The trial should be open to the public. An impeachment trial of a president is a matter of exceptional importance to the American people. They should be able to understand the case for the President’s removal and the President’s defense. The doors to the Senate chamber should be open and the American people permitted to witness the proceedings to the extent possible. Transparency should only be sacrificed to advance compelling interests such as the sanctity of Senate deliberations, the need to protect legitimately classified information, or the recognition of a whistleblower’s right to anonymity.
  • Each Senator should take seriously his or her oath to “do impartial justice” and to “support and defend the Constitution.” The question is not whether to support the President. The question is whether the President has committed treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors within the meaning of the Constitution.

How a Fair, Transparent Impeachment Trial Should Proceed

If you truly want a fair and transparent trial then the recusal of any and all Senators from the juror pool for statements made that their mind is made up before the trial and anyone that has stated that they are in contact with the accused for coordination.  That would be Sens. Graham, Kennedy, McConnell et al….these Senators violated Nos. 2 & 4……

Like anyone really cares about the process…..it is much easier to rant and moan about how it appears not the legality.

This process will be a circus and the Senate will be the clowns for our entertainment.

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What Is The Purpose Of Impeachment?

Paper #5 of 5

This is a thought in a series of thoughts on the impeachment process.

The Senate Trial begins tomorrow…..all the jurors have been sworn in and signed the oath….time to get down to business.

Is Trump guilty or not?

I care not this series of posts are about the impeachment process not some silly notion of tribalism.

An easy answer for those that look for easy answers…..for those that want to pass on the whining of politicians and pundits.

Yes one of the purposes for the process of impeachment is to remove the president from office (a process that has not been very effective by the way)…..but it is NOT the only purpose for the process.

Time to look t the Founding Fathers and their opinions and thoughts on the process need to be brought out…..

As Congress considers formal charges of impeachment against President Donald Trump, they should consider words spoken at the Constitutional Convention, when the Founders explained that impeachment was intended to have many important purposes, not just removing a president from office.

A critical debate took place on July 20, 1787, which resulted in adding the impeachment clause to the U.S. Constitution. Benjamin Franklin, the oldest and probably wisest delegate at the Convention, said that when the president falls under suspicion, a “regular and peaceable inquiry” is needed.

…statements made at the Constitutional Convention explaining that the Founders viewed impeachment as a regular practice with three purposes:

  • To remind both the country and the president that he is not above the law
  • To deter abuses of power
  • To provide a fair and reliable method to resolve suspicions about misconduct.

https://www.juancole.com/2019/12/founders-removal-purpose-impeachment.html

If one is to debate or bitch about the process of impeachment then maybe a little knowledge would help……(Hahahaha…..I know in the era of mass stupid knowledge the last thing these mental midgets need)…..

Does anyone know what the term “oversight” means?

(Look it up…I am sure you can use Google by now)

The Founders were concerned that there could be an “imperial president” if there were no oversight…..

I have a problem…I do not care whether Trump is convicted or not, my problem is the oath taken by people that have already made up their minds…..this will be a joke for late night TV….not a political exercise.

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The Trial Of The Century

The House has impeached the president and now the drama moves to the Senate for the trial…….

The drama has been set into motion….the jurors have been sworn in and signed the oath….

The Senate got the formalities of President Trump’s impeachment trial started Thursday, though the real work of the trial is not expected to start until next week. At noon, House impeachment managers read the two articles of impeachment against Trump, formally beginning the third such trial in US history. Afterward, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts was sworn in to preside over the trial, and he in turn swore in the senators as jurors. (Only 99, however: Republican James Inhofe was absent because of a family medical issue.) All this as related developments—including a government watchdog assessment critical of Trump’s withholding of Ukraine aid and allegations by a Rudy Giuliani associate—continue to emerge. Coverage:

  • The trial: Expect the Senate be in session six days a week once things get rolling. There’s no timetable on how long it will last, notes Rolling Stone, though White House adviser Kellyanne Conway predicted two weeks during an appearance on Fox News Thursday. “These two articles are very weak,” she said, per the Washington Post. “We don’t see the need to have a lengthy, protracted trial.”
  • McSally’s slam: GOP Sen. Martha McSally tweeted a video of herself shutting down CNN reporter Manu Raju when he asked her before the trial began whether the Senate should consider new evidence. “You’re a liberal hack. I’m not talking to you,” McSally said. “You’re not going to comment?” Raju asked. “You’re a liberal hack,” McSally responded. The senator is taking flak from those defending a journalist’s right to ask what seemed to be a straightforward question, notes Mediaite, which has examples.
  • That GOA report: Will the watchdog’s assessment that it was illegal to withhold Ukraine aid be consequential? Apparently not. “I think they misunderstand the law,” said Rand Paul, in comments similar to other skeptical GOP senators. “I think presidents withhold money all the time, move money around,” he said, per Politico. “I think there’s a great deal of latitude to what presidents do. So I think they’ve misinterpreted the law.”
  • The judge: The AP predicts that Roberts will play a modest role in the proceedings. He is expected to follow the model of William Rehnquist, who drew little attention when he presided over the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton. One legal distinction: Roberts has little experience running a trial, compared to the appellate proceedings at the Supreme Court.
  • The wildcard: Will there be witnesses? The Hill sees this as perhaps the biggest question yet to be answered, and it won’t be answered until after opening arguments by both sides. Democrats who want to hear from top White House officials need four Republicans to force the issue, though Republicans such as Rand Paul are pushing back. For the record, the Hill’s preview also notes that it’s all but guaranteed the trial will end in Trump’s acquittal.
  • Those pens: In remarks on the Senate floor Thursday, Mitch McConnell faulted Nancy Pelosi for handing out commemorative pens after signing off on the impeachment articles Wednesday. “The speaker of the House apparently saw nothing strange about celebrating the third presidential impeachment in American history with souvenirs and posted photographs,” he said, calling it evidence of a partisanship. “That pretty well sums it up. That’s what the process has been thus far. But it’s not what this process will be going forward.”

Not to worry the GOP Senators have already decided the outcome so this should be a fairly short operation.

I will continue to update my readers during the impeachment process.

My personal observation is that this will be a political circus, a theater of the absurd, this outcome has been preordained by GOP Senators…so this will most likely be a waste of time and energy.

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Would A Censure Be Better?

Paper #4

We now await the process to continue in the saga of the impeachment of a president….,the process is waiting to be given to the Senate for their part of the impeachment process…the Trial……

The games being played along partisan lines is just a waste of time for the “trial” will not be a impartial one….I say that because of what the Majority leader has said and the chairman of the Senate judiciary Committee, Sen Graham….they have made it clear that they will not be an impartial jury.

Praise be!  Looks like the partisanship in DC holds……the political center will fail…..and the broken system and process will remain badly broken…..and the president will survive the trial in the Senate and Trump will retain the seat of power.

I have tried to give my reader all the information I could about the impeachment process….the evidence, the analysis, etc.

https://lobotero.com/2019/12/19/the-house-on-impeachment/

https://lobotero.com/2019/12/20/impeached-now-what/

https://lobotero.com/2020/01/07/that-senate-impeachment-trial/

Personally, I think the GOP did all they could to obfuscate the process…..and there is what I see….the GOP has nothing to bitch about but the process…I keep waiting for one of them to talk or rant or bitch or moan about the evidence….so far I got nothing but theatrics.

Not to worry….the Dems are just as much a coward as the GOP…..especially those so-called moderates…..

Progressive Democrats in Congress directed contempt at several of their centrist colleagues for holding a meeting Monday where they discussed censuring President Donald Trump for his alleged attempt to bribe the Ukrainian government rather than impeaching him.

According to Politico, the conservative Democrats attending the meeting included Reps. Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.), Kurt Schrader (D-Ore.), Anthony Brindisi (D-N.Y.), and Ben McAdams (D-Utah.), who represent districts that Trump won in 2016. 

Progressive Democrats offered little sympathy to the members, who are potentially vulnerable in their 2020 re-election campaigns.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/11/exactly-why-some-people-hate-democrats-progressives-rip-moderates-proposal-censure

Censure?

Believe it or not censure is not something new.  The so-called liberal group MoveOn.org was a censure move for Clinton called “Censure and move on” during his impeachment process….and the group has been a Clintonian mover and shaker ever since.

But a censure?  What the Hell does that mean?

It is less severe than expulsion, a censure (sometimes referred to as condemnation or denouncement) does not remove a senator from office. It is a formal statement of disapproval, however, that can have a powerful psychological effect on a member and his/her relationships in the Senate. In 1834, the Senate censured President Andrew Jackson – the first and only time the Senate censured a president. 

Censure is a formal disapproval that can be adopted by one, or both chambers of Congress. Unlike impeachment, censure is not a power provided by the Constitution, said Gregory Magarian, a professor of law at Washington University in St. Louis. The House and Senate have adopted internal rules that allow them to draft and approve a censure resolution, which provides a public record disapproving of an official’s actions. Such a resolution is a rebuke, but does not carry any material punishment like removal from office.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-does-it-mean-to-censure-a-politician

But there is a bit of a problem with a censure…..many know the word but not many know what it is in reality….https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/166736

Back to me.

Censure?  NO go full tilt boogie or go home.

Do I want Trump impeached?

Yes I do.

Truth be told (something that is sadly missing in this process) I kinda hope that the president walks on the Senate side.

Yes I said I want him cleared by the Senate in case you were confused.

Yes, I want him to remain in office and doing what is doing.

Why?

I want the Dems to learn from their time against the GOP……the later is far better at politics and dirty deeds than the former.

Dems need to learn and learn the lesson hard.

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Closing Thought–10Jan20

As an amputee I found this report very disturbing…..

……there was a movie about the repossession of body parts for none payment….and I thought it was fiction……

It seems that a veteran has had his replacement leg repossessed for non-payment…..

Do I have your attention now?

A decorated military veteran who served in Vietnam and Iraq has claimed that his prosthetic legs were taken away after the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) would not cover the cost.

Jerry Holliman, 69, told the Clarion Ledger that he was in his room at the Veterans Home in Collins, Mississippi just a couple days before Christmas when a man walked in and took away his prosthetic limbs. According to Holliman, the VA said it would not cover the cost of the limbs, while Medicare said there’d be a copay required.

“Medicare did not send me to Vietnam,” Holliman, who received Bronze Stars in both wars in which he served, told the Ledger in an article published Thursday. “I was sent there by my country…with the understanding that if something bad happened to me, that it would be covered by the VA.”

The newspaper reported that Holliman received his prosthetics in August from the national company Hanger, which produces them. Holliman said, however, that after he received a few training lessons from Hanger staff, he was told the VA would not cover the cost and to check with Medicare.

According to Holliman, the Medicare paperwork said there would be a copay, and Holliman did not want to pay since he expected the VA to cover the costs in the end.

(Clarion Ledger)

Another example of just how badly the veterans are being screwed by the government…….do not blame Trump alone…this, sh*t has been going on for decades.

Every candidate, no matter the party, says they will protect our veterans and their words are hollow for they NEVER maker good on that promise…NONE OF THEM!

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Chaos: US Foreign Policy

I have said numerous times that the Trump White House has no other policy in foreign relations than that of knee jerk BS and CHAOS…..I have made my thoughts known on the stupidity on foreign policy….

https://lobotero.com/2019/05/20/feeding-the-lord-of-chaos/

https://lobotero.com/2019/07/29/political-chaos-theory/

To say that I approve of any of our international entanglements would be an out right lie.

One of the best examples of the chaos spread by the Trumpian foreign policy….this time it is a simple letter…..

Top Pentagon leaders said Monday that the US has no plans to withdraw troops from Iraq, despite a draft letter from a senior military officer that appeared to suggest a withdrawal was being planned. Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters the US is “moving forces around” Iraq and neighboring Kuwait. He said a draft letter circulated internally by a Marine commander was “poorly written” and should never have gotten out, the AP reports. The draft letter appeared to suggest the US was preparing to pull troops out of Iraq in response to a vote by its Parliament over the weekend. The draft said troops would be “repositioning over the course of the coming days and weeks to prepare for onward movement” and warned of an increase in helicopter travel around the Green Zone. It added, “We respect your sovereignty decision to order our departure.”

Milley and Defense Secretary Mark Esper, however, said the US has been repositioning troops, largely due to increased security threats from Iran. The letter was meant to coordinate with the Iraqi military on an increase in US helicopter and troop movements. “There’s been no decision whatsever to leave Iraq,” Esper said. Some language in the letter “implies withdrawal,” Milley acknowledged. “The long and the short of it is, it’s an honest mistake.” Esper said the US remains committed to defeating the Islamic State group in Iraq and the region. Pro-Iran factions in the Iraqi Parliament have pushed to oust American troops following the killing of a top Iranian general in Baghdad in a US drone strike last week. A three-ship US naval group that includes 2,200 Marines and a helicopter group is on its way to the Persian Gulf region, per Bloomberg.

This back peddling is normal for the Trumpian toads dishing our our foreign policy……

In case you want to see the original….then look no further.

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https://www.thenational.ae/world/the-americas/pentagon-says-iraq-withdrawal-letter-a-mistake-1.960854

This is just one small example of the inept leaders this country is depending on to keep us safe…..

Here is a quick look at where our troops are stationed around the Middle East……

the Pentagon announced that it was sending an additional 3,500 soldiers to the region, stationed between Kuwait and Iraq, while troops in Italy were put on standby, according to defense officials. The troop escalation came just days after President Trump ordered an additional 750 U.S. soldiers to the Middle East and 3,000 more to be on alert for future deployment, after pro-Iranian forces stormed the U.S. Embassy as part of a worsening cycle of violence.

The United States has tens of thousands of military personnel at bases and aboard ships across the Middle East, as well as arrangements with various countries to move soldiers and military equipment through airstrips and ports. Here’s a look at some of these places, which could now be targets.

https://outline.com/k9f4Hf

Every day I feel less safe with this admin in place…..and every day I feel we inch closer to a larger war in the Middle East.

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