The Dem debate is in the bag….now time to zero in on the testimony before the House hearings…..day 5 and witnesses will be….Fiona Hill and David Holmes……
The one thing we knew for certain was that the president to Tweet out an insult and cheer the thugs like Nunes and Jordan onward….but here is what happened yesterday…..
The impeachment hearings are back underway at Capitol Hill, and President Trump called Democrats participating in the proceeding “human scum.” In a morning tweet, Trump also wrote that “corrupt politician Adam Schiff’s lies are growing by the day,” and he urged Republicans to stay united in his defense. Soon, he added, the matter will be on “our turf,” referring to the Senate. Tuesday’s witnesses are Fiona Hill, a former White House adviser who worked at the National Security Council, and David Holmes, a staffer at the US embassy in Ukraine. Coverage:
- Hill: In her opening statement, Hill criticized Republicans for pushing the “fictional narrative” that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 election, reports Politico. “These fictions are harmful even if they are deployed for purely domestic political purposes,” she said, asking GOP members to “not promote politically driven falsehoods that so clearly advance Russian interests.” Trump, too, has said Ukraine meddled in the election to benefit Hillary Clinton, notes the Washington Post, but Hill says it is not true. “The unfortunate truth is that Russia was the foreign power that systematically attacked our democratic institutions,” Hill says. “It is beyond dispute.” Read her statement in full here.
- Holmes: The embassy official in Kyiv said he was sure by the end of the August that Trump froze military aid to Ukraine to pressure the country to investigate Hunter Biden, reports the New York Times. “My clear impression was that the security assistance hold was likely intended by the president either as an expression of dissatisfaction with the Ukrainians who had not yet agreed to the Burisma/Biden investigation or as an effort to increase the pressure on them to do so.” He also told lawmakers he heard Trump and American diplomat Gordon Sondland talking about “the investigation” during a phone call, adding that he could hear Trump’s voice while sitting near Sondland in a restaurant. (Read about Sondland’s big-news testimony Wednesday.)
- Overhead call: Holmes also told lawmakers he heard Trump ask American diplomat Gordon Sondland whether Ukraine was going to do “the investigation” during a phone call. Sondland made the call while he and Holmes were sitting together at a restaurant in Kyiv. Holmes recounts that overhead phone call in this video via NBC News. Trump’s voice was “quite loud” and “quite distinctive,” allowing him to identify the president. Holmes also demonstrated how Sondland moved the phone away from his ear. (Read about Sondland’s big-news testimony Wednesday.)
- Trump skeptical: The president tweeted his doubts about Holmes’ ability to overhear that conversation. “I have been watching people making phone calls my entire life,” he wrote. “My hearing is, and has been, great. Never have I been watching a person making a call, which was not on speakerphone, and been able to hear or understand a conversation. I’ve even tried, but to no avail. Try it live!”
- Slam on Giuliani: When someone once wondered aloud why Rudy Giuliani was such a public presence in regard to Ukraine, Holmes recalls Sondland saying, “Dammit Rudy. Every time Rudy gets involved he goes and f—s everything up,” per CNN.
- Devin Nunes: The top Republican on the House panel conducting the hearing used his opening statement to celebrate the “merciful end” to the proceedings. “Whether the Democrats reap the political benefit they want from this impeachment remains to be seen,” said Nunes. “But the damage they have done to this country will be long-lasting.” Read his statement in full via US News & World Report.
I really do not see the need for further witnesses and testimony….the ones that have gone before have made the case for impeachment….and then Trump keeps helping the Committee make up their minds….for he cannot stop stomping on the toes of the attack dogs like Jimbo Baggins……who rambled on about everything but the subject of the hearing…..surely these people know how feckless, pathetic and disgusting they appear.
There will be more coming on this situation…..no doubt but for this week the deal is done.
The Independent Rep. Amash closes this post out……”Impeachment in the House is an indictment, said the Michigan congressman. “If this were an ordinary prosecution, there’s no grand jury in America that would not return an indictment on the facts and evidence presented in these hearings.”
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Thanks again for saving me having to watch it, chuq. 🙂
Best wishes, Pete.
You are welcome and it is a pleasure to be helpful chuq
Every single witness re Biden investigation demand said “they heard, they were told, they understood, it was in the grapevine loop, they thought, they concluded, they supposed, he said …” but not a single one heard a direct order or was given a direct order by the president to do the Biden investigation. All second, third and fourth level hearsay. The closest it came to an order was Sondman’s testimony but when asked “Did president tell you the Biden investigation was a must do” he answered “No, he surmised it. Also dems selected the witnesses and no republican suggested witnesses were present. They will be in the senate though. I predict impeachment will run out of gas when IG releases all the findings Dec 9 indictments cascade and the recent exposure of the FBI’s agent’s fixing documents is the bombshell beginning.
If a person is in the room and hears the crime then they say…..the Constitution is being violated and few give a shit…that is what America is all about now….chuq
Well I give a shit and if some says “The president told me to get the Ukrainians to implicate the Bidens in something and announce their investigation” in an actual conversation that was recorded in some way then there is provable guilt. I still would not remove a president for playing hard ball in a hard ball arena if allegations proved true. US and allies and their leaders have done all kinds of distasteful and criminal things on a much greater scale in secret agreements. Yes, I do concede Chuq that such does not make it right.
Not to worry….no matter the evidence he will remain….spinelessness is the rule of the day in DC chuq
Dear Carl — You hit the nail squarely on the head even though there are a lot of rabid Dems who refuse to lift their blinders and see what actually went down.
No concern at all for Biden mischief by dems. Did I tell you what my friend heard from a woman in New York who got it from her grandmother in the nursing home that overheard chatter at the nurse’s station…
You certainly have a good handle on the real facts about Democrats intransigence and blindness to real truth in this matter, Carl — You have just demonstrated the absolute insanity in Democratic reasoning … the disresonance with reality in their willingness to cling to smoke and mirrors hearsay as hard evidence — absolutely mindless on their part — They are so driven by their rage they will grasp at any straw and stoop to any deviance to achieve their ends.
Then we should have never convicted Gotti for all the evidence was hearsay….nice way to use the law…selectively chuq
By the way, I have signed up to follow your blog. I think it is priceless. I love real wisdom when I hear it.
Carl, gang leaders and mob bosses NEVER say anything directly, and that is common knowledge. Yet, the underlings and thugs understand what the boss is saying without him ever having to say anything directly. And so they do the dastardly deeds, while the boss enjoys immunity, because he never said anything directly.
Can criminal bosses never be held accountable, because they never ordered a hit, assassination, crime or bribe?
Maybe look up stochastic terrorism and learn some more about how how mob bosses operate.
What Is A Stochastic Terrorist? Trump Defends Abusers Of Women Because He Is One Too – Trump Sends Signal To Racist Loyalists – Multiple Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian Pastors Promise Genocide Of Liberals If Trump Is Impeached – Whitewashing History: Mexican American War
https://www.agreenroadjournal.com/2017/08/trump-pardons-arpaio-in.html
Thanks for offering these thoughts. I do understand how the Mafia don works and everyone gets his signals. Kind of like King Henry II’s utterance “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” Then his thugs murder Thomas Beckett, the Archbishop.
“Can criminal bosses never be held accountable, because they never ordered a hit, assassination, crime or bribe?” I don’t know the legal answer to that. That’s why the “Teflon Don”, John Gotti remained free for so long. They could not get him if his crew inferred what he implied without an actual order. They got Al Capone for income tax evasion not his murders and crimes and ordered hits by Frank Nitty, his hit man. Seems like dems conducting a Trump “slip up crime” of some nature to do the same thing. I am sure we would be absolutely astonished to have revelations of the underhanded things presidents did like Lincoln having over 3,000 people arrested and imprisoned as possible southern spies and sympathizers without any due process or trial. Didn’t the dems manufacture with clandestine operations the absurd smear that Trump is a Russian agent with their foreign assistance? I am sure the imminent IG report will show all kinds of collusion between FBI, CIA, DOJ, Dem Party, Hillary campaign, et al to destroy Trump before and after the election and then that can no longer be simply dismissed as silly conspiracy theory. We can discuss the impact of that soon. Barr has implied that in many public statements so I am following the dem tradition and assume he means the ax is falling on many anti Trump conspirators even though he’s never said it. .
Circumstance and hearsay do not stand in American courts of law. Period!
That’s right.
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THanx for the re-blog….your help is appreciated….chuq