A New Conservation Corps?

Oh goody!

There are very few people left that remember the New Deal’s Civilian Conservation Corp (CCC)…..

Just a small reminder…..

The Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) was a work relief program that gave millions of young men employment on environmental projects during the Great Depression. Considered by many to be one of the most successful of Roosevelt’s New Deal programs, the CCC planted more than three billion trees and constructed trails and shelters in more than 800 parks nationwide during its nine years of existence. The CCC helped to shape the modern national and state park systems we enjoy today.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt established the Civilian Conservation Corps, or CCC, with an executive order on April 5, 1933. The CCC was part of his New Deal legislation, combating high unemployment during the Great Depression by putting hundreds of thousands of young men to work on environmental conservation projects.

The CCC combined FDR’s interests in conservation and universal service for youth. As governor of New York, he had run a similar program on a smaller scale.


What brought about my history lesson was something I read that Pres. Biden was planning….

Now, as the ongoing pandemic has wrought the greatest economic downturn since the Great Depression, Roosevelt’s public jobs programs are back in the spotlight. As part his recent climate policy spree, Biden announced the establishment of a “Civilian Climate Corps Initiative” that could harness the energy of the very generation that must face – and solve – the climate crisis by putting them to work in well-paying conservation jobs.

After Biden’s omnibus executive order, the heads of the Department of the Interior, the Department of Agriculture and other departments have 90 days to present their plan to “mobilize the next generation of conservation and resilience workers”, a step toward fulfilling Biden’s promise to get the US on track to conserve 30% of lands and oceans by 2030.


This could help save Americans from having to live in their car…..

But is it a good idea?

Just a thought….Pres. Obama had an idea to help this nation back in 2009……https://lobotero.com/2009/04/22/7071/

Sadly that plan was a flop.

Why was it a “flop”?

The young cannot tear themselves away from the Kardashians or social media to be in service to America.

Will Biden’s plan also meet with failure?

I Read, I Write, You Know

“lego ergo scribo”

10 thoughts on “A New Conservation Corps?

  1. AmeriCorps and VISTA have been fulfilling similar tasks and more for decades – even though they don’t get a lot of press and not many Americans seem know about them. I served a total of 6 years in both. And the Peace Corps still exists. So, give the thousands of their alum credit for serving with hundreds of different non-profits. Those serving are for the most part, recent college graduates. If they make the stipend $15.00 an hour – it will be a big win. AmeriCorps funds 50% and the NGO the other 50%. I served in my early sixties.

    Assuming that young people are all just looking at their phone is easy but overlooks the thousands involved in BLM, School Strike for Climate, and getting the vote out in Georgia – and now fighting for freedom in Myanmar.

    1. Not quite the same idea, Ned. Each of these programs assumes that you can volunteer time, and none of these programs sends EVERY American kid into another part of the USA to learn and work in an environment different from where s/he grew up.

      If all kids did this as a form of civilian service, and maybe even got a stipend, we could get infrastructure or social work done while the kids learn to talk with and learn from and see people and parts of the country, or even of their own cities, that they did not grow up with (imagine a well-off kid from sububan MD sent to Anacostia, in DC, for a few weeks, and then rotated in to Appalachia, while kids from Anacostia and/or the Watts, LA, rotate in to hospitals in Beverly Hills…).

      1. Neither AmeriCorps or VISTA are volunteer programs. AmeriCorp members used to be paid $1,400 a month and VISTA $800 a month. In the Cincinnati program I was a part of we had members from Vermont, Tennessee, Michigan, Ohio, Georgia, etc. There was/is a volunteer program as well. I got paid to rehab houses, to screen people for free healthcare, to organize a community gardening program, write a newsletter that covered immigration, peace and death penalty issues.

      2. Hmm, maybe that is why they are so small or not well publicized. I looked into one or both a few years ago, and neither seemed easy to get into.
        What I think Chuq and I are talking about is a program that would have universal uptake for our kids between say, 16 and 21, in the same way that Gap Year is nearly universal in Europe, but as an in-country exchange sort of work/service program that may or may not pay, but takes ALL American kids for a year, and is a universal equivalent to civilian military service, but without the shooting people and blowing things up part.

    2. I have written about both…I still believe that most are self-centric to care. But this may be a moot point….infrastructure is important but not to politicians. chuq

  2. I say, “Reestablish the CCC and people it with ne’er do well welfare queens so that they can do something constructive to earn their monthly stipend other than sitting around getting drunk and smoking dope. Make every able-bodied one of the slugs do their share to earn their keep.

  3. Thank you, Chuq!

    A version of civilian service for ALL young Americans, as a version of Gap Year, so that kids from rich families and from middle class families meet and learn from kids from poor and working class families, and so that they all get to live and learn in parts of the country that are different from where they grew up.

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