Since Americans do not seem to give a crap about things since Donald the Orange was removed from office in the 2020 election….the impeachment process that is ongoing has not generated much interests……I thought I would bring my readers up to date on the process….for the second time…..
On the House side, 10 Republicans voted with Democrats to impeach. But Senate Republicans have been sounding reluctant lately to convict after their strong initial reaction to the Capitol riot, per the New York Times. Many of the GOP senators aren’t defending Trump’s behavior so much as citing objections to the trial process, with some of them saying it’s not constitutional to convict a former president. Others have been saying a trial will be too divisive for the country. The Senate is scheduled to formally ask Trump to respond to the charge Tuesday afternoon. The trial schedule also is to be agreed to then, and senators will take an impeachment oath to carry out “impartial justice” in the case.
Now that the articles have been delivered to the Senate from the House…..the drama brings again…..
Senate Republicans voted overwhelmingly Tuesday against moving forward with Donald Trump’s historic second impeachment trial, making clear a conviction of the former president for “incitement of insurrection” is unlikely. In a 55-45 procedural vote, the Senate set aside an objection from Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul that would have declared the impeachment proceedings unconstitutional, the AP reports. That means the trial on Trump’s impeachment, the first ever of a former president, will begin as scheduled the week of Feb. 8. Democrats rejected GOP arguments that the trial is not legitimate, pointing to an 1876 impeachment of a secretary of war who had already resigned and to opinions by many legal scholars.
The senators took oaths Tuesday to ensure “impartial justice” as jurors in the trial. Yet the support of 45 Republicans for declaring the trial invalid indicates that there are long odds for Trump’s conviction, which would require the support of all Democrats and 17 Republicans, or two-thirds of the Senate. While most Republicans criticized Trump shortly after the attack, many of them have rushed to defend him in the trial, showing the former president’s enduring sway over the GOP. The Hill reports that the five Republicans who voted against declaring the proceedings unconstitutional were Sens. Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, Ben Sasse, Pat Toomey, and Susan Collins.
This whole early drama shows me that this about party politics and not the Constitution……this helps make my case that the GOP is loaded with cowards and spineless politicians.
What the vote count means….
Former President Trump’s impeachment trial begins Feb. 9, but a vote Tuesday in the Senate revealed a mostly partisan split over the validity of having the trial in the first place. It was a win for the Democrats, only in that they, and five Republicans who joined them, quashed an objection by Republican Sen. Rand Paul, who insisted impeaching an ex-president would violate the Constitution. The vote that killed Paul’s objection was 55-45, but it’s a vote count the Washington Post says signals a “likely acquittal” of Trump, as 67 senators would need to agree to convict him. If a conviction does come to pass, Trump could be banned from future office with a second vote by a simple majority. The five Republican senators who joined their Democratic colleagues in the vote: Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, Ben Sasse, and Pat Toomey. Reaction:
- Agreed: Mark Meadows, the White House’s former chief of staff, aligns with the notion that this vote is a signifier of the bigger picture, per the Hill. “If today’s Senate vote is any sign, the Democrats’ ridiculous impeachment of former President Trump will fail—again—by a long shot. Dead on arrival,” he tweeted Tuesday.
- Constitutionality: That’s the issue many Republicans are citing, and some of them met Tuesday before the vote with law professor Jonathan Turley, who testified for the GOP during Trump’s first impeachment trial. At the luncheon, per the Wall Street Journal, Turley pushed the idea that it’s unconstitutional to try a former president, and that Trump “might be best served by simply not participating in the trial.”
- Top Dem pushes back: “The theory that the Senate can’t try former officials would amount to a constitutional ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ card for any president who commits an impeachable offense,” Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said in response, per NPR.
- And another: Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin, who’s serving as one of the impeachment managers for the trial, concurs: “If we had a rule that you can’t be tried for anything that you did in your last three or four or five weeks in office, that would basically be sending an extremely dangerous signal to future presidents that they could try to incite or execute a coup or an armed insurrection against the government and say, ‘La-di-da, it’s too late to prosecute me.”
- Historical precedence: The New York Times offers an example of when this type of impeachment trial has happened before—in 1876, when William Belknap, the secretary of war under Ulysses Grant, resigned “in tears,” but was impeached by the House soon after anyway. The Senate in that case agreed it had the jurisdiction to hear Belknap’s case, though it ended up acquitting him.
- A crack in the firmament? An acquittal isn’t completely out of reach. GOP Sen. John Thune tells CNN, “I don’t think [this vote] binds anybody once the trial starts.” Sen. Rob Portman, meanwhile, who recently announced he won’t run for reelection, says he just wants a debate on the matter, but is similarly open: “I’ve not made my mind up. I’m a juror.”
The big point is that since Trump is no longer president he is a private citizen and cannot be impeached.
My thought is why not?
He was still president when he instigated that insurrection so he is still available for impeachment….the Senate trial should go forward.
In a real trial the judge would not allow someone that has already decided the outcome to become on a jury…..but yet it is perfectly okay for the Senate to do so.
If they have made up their mind then they should be dismissed.
Time for the Senate to start acting like lawmakers and not a pack of political twats.
But this may be an exercise in futility for the Repubs have made up their minds in advance and NO amount of evidence will change those minds.
For me this makes the entire GOP co-conspirators and should be handled as such.
Since they have made up their minds on this they should be denied committee assignments for they have proven that the rule of debate and evidence is a moot point with them.
This proves my assertion that the Senate is nothing but a club for old white guys…..that have NO interest in doing the work of the country.
They are a worthless pack and time to maybe considering a unicameral system (more on this soon) maybe then we could actually enact laws and the business of the nation.
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