Last week the people of the UK voted to leave the EU by a small margin…..(and the peasants danced)…..now that Cameron is gone and the UK is leaving….what will it take to slip out of town?
Britain has voted to leave the European Union, but any such split is still years away. Here’s a look at what happens next:
- Thursday’s vote isn’t legally binding, meaning Britain must still formally notify the EU of its intention to leave. To do so, it would invoke the never-before-used Article 50 of the EU treaty, which in turn sets off a two-year period of negotiations over the exit, explains CNN.
- But when that two-year clock starts ticking is still unclear. In theory, outgoing Prime Minister David Cameron could inform the EU at a meeting as early as next week. But Cameron said Friday he thinks it makes more sense for his successor to do so, notes the New York Times. That would push back the notification at least a few months.
- Even after the clock starts ticking, the exit won’t necessarily be figured out within two years. A quote from the BBC: “It’s not possible to predict exactly how long it would take, but comparable international trade deals have taken on average between four and nine years.”
- The Telegraph: “Untying Britain from the old membership is the easy bit. Harder would be agreeing [on] a new trading relationship, establishing what tariffs and other barriers to entry are permitted, and agreeing on obligations such as free movement. Such a process, EU leaders claim, could take another five years.”
- Why are things so vague? “The Treaty of Lisbon was drafted with the idea that [Article 50] would not be used, and to make it pretty hard to exit in a smooth way,” a Cambridge lecturer tells the Independent.
- And there’s this: Because Thursday’s vote isn’t legally binding, “there are a few ways it could theoretically be blocked or overturned,” notes Vox. The Guardian suggests one: Parliament could instruct the prime minister not to invoke Article 50.
- Also possible: A second referendum to undo the first.
Wait! Article 50?
Glad you asked……Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty……
Article 50
2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.
3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.
A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.
You could not believe the ‘crap’ that is going on here….we are fighting back!
“The people have spoken and it is tyranny to silence them” Brendan O’Neill on the rage against the referendum result http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/the-howl-against-democracy/ …
As well as being the editor of spiked, Brendan is also a columnist for the Big Issue and Reason.
The Big Issue is a magazine sold by the homeless….
say no more.
Needless to say… a lot of people do not like him…including the so called ‘feminists’
Divide: Old v Young http://tinyurl.com/hbhclu7
I will do one last post on this later today and have a wealth of info…..Americans cannot see beyond their backyards…
Neither can the 48% here….
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I will look forward to it…
UUUU….I’m on topic!
Vladimir Putin slams David Cameron over EU referendum | via @telegraphnews http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/25/vladimir-putin-slams-david-cameron-over-eu-referendum/
great post chuq
Muchisimas gracias por todo….
gracias and thanx….
.Americans cannot see beyond their backyards… when it comes to what goes on in the EU (Pee-Yew) I do not have the slightest interest as an American because I am not a globalist and will never be a globalist because globalism leads to an easier transition to One World Government and that idea is total crap. I know everybody has their own opinion about things and I have just expressed mine …. and about 88% of my fellow citizens ….The “Wot-Wots” across the pond have their baby now … let them rock it!
You should because it will effect this country as well….just Friday billions were lost….and it could get worse…if you have a fund then it will be effected…
I never fret about things that I cannot control.
That is a good attitude…hope your broker feels the same
We tend to get through these things. Been there before.
We Are Rocking It…..
‘We tend to get through these things. Been there before’
I know that one…..
” But The Immeasurable Pleasure In Depriving The Power Elite Of Their “Democracy” Legitimacy Was Worth Any Potential Sacrifice.”
One World Government…is what I am trying to fight….
as my dad always used to say..
‘kicking shit up a hill’
Sob…..
“Shame so many older people decided to ruin the future of the young”…..
Give ya one guess who said that….and tweeted it to me….
Off to the off license…
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Anyone wanna rent out a grandma?
Pay attention, ffolkes. You are witnessing the first salvos in the imminent collapse of capitalism and the entire money scheme/scam. Robert Heinlein once pointed out there are two basic types of people: those who wish to control others, and those who have no wish to do so. Those battle lines are now being drawn, and the circus is about to get even more chaotic….
Someone above mentioned 88% of people; those 88% are, for the most part, not able to see the whole picture. because they insist on clinging to their favorite fears, of how different they are from each other…. All the hullabaloo now happening, over Brexit, over Russia, over US imperialism and all the other nonsense, is all of a piece, and nobody at all knows how it will end; we can only know it won’t end well…
Gird your grids for the big one, ffolkes. Today is just the beginning…
gigoid, the dubious
Do ya rent any loins?
If so, How much?
Hmm… not sure how to respond to that… Loins of what? If I had any, other than my own, I think I’d rather sell them outright, rather than renting…. less paperwork…
*wink*
Or, we can barter for it….
gigoid
Hahaha…gird your loins…
gird (up) one’s loins (or gird oneself for something)
phrase of gird
1.
prepare and strengthen oneself for future actions, typically ones that may be dangerous or difficult.
synonyms: prepare, get ready, make ready, gear up, nerve, steel, galvanize, brace, strengthen, fortify, bolster, buttress; informalpsych oneself up
“the Persians girded themselves for an attack”
Got it…. I used the term from a Firesign Theater skit, from I Think We’re All Bozos On This Bus…. “Gird your grids for a big one, boys and girls!”…. I can’t recall the last time I had to gird my loins for battle… Well, I could, but, it’s been so long, it’s depressing…
*wink*
#LOL!@myself
gigoid
Oh,shut up!
*grin*
Depending on your perspective nothing ever ends well or everything ends well. The Great Depression ended badly for some and great for others … bad for those who lost their wealth … good for those who got the great jobs that came out of the recovery. Every world event has always had it’s “Glass half filled or half empty effect” and so this “Breakup” of the PU (Putrid Union) will be the same … good for some, bad for others. The ruling elite will find a way to profit from it at the expense of the servile classes, you can bet your bottom on that!
“Most folks are just about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abe Lincoln
Another way of saying people make their own heaven or hell. Most of them never even know they’re in control of that…
gigoid
“Put your head between your knees and kiss your ass good-bye” I love it chuq
Perhaps the ONE measurably good thing about all this is that David Cameron is gone. His minority Majority government ramming through austerity measures made them all the more distasteful. But no need to shed any tears for Cameron. I’m sure he’ll be going straight to the corporate boardroom of several of those financial companies that stood to benefit from the “City of London Exemption” he got from the EU.
Protecting the financial douches is likely the only thing he actually gave a shit about in this entire process. They won either way, so they just tossed coins in the voting booth. Maybe this is why Cameron carried on like he didn’t care. What a fucking wanker! He was so unconvincing in his defence of the EU, he barely got himself to vote to Remain. Corbyn too. He probably voted to Leave while 1/4 heartedly encouraged people to Remain. Duplicitous bastards only trying to advance their own causes. And now these kind of tossers will get more powers! Huzzah!
This entire thing is riddled with hidden agendas. And now they’ll go into years of secret negotiations that will in no way require public approval afterwards. Funny that!
The public’s only job was to write a blank cheque in advance. And it was signed only by 51.9% of the 72% who bothered to vote on the most important question facing Britain since 1939’s “Poland; Is It Worth It?”. That’s hardly a clear mandate for ANYTHING, not even a on-line vote for a new flavour of crisps.
Twenty years from now, 63% of Brits might be saying “Don’t blame me. I didn’t vote to Leave.” and they’d be statistically right. However, something tells me that, 20 years from now, at least 63% will wish they were still under the thumbs of the Brussels Sprouts.
Of course they will and the same will be said if Americans vote Trump into office…none of them will admit to being that stupid….
Those “counter-referendum-ists” have a good point. This is too important an issue to be decided in a photo-finish like this. The fact is 63% of eligible voters did NOT vote to Leave…And tens of thousands of British passport holders (ie my mom) were declared not-eligible to vote. Most of them probably would have voted to Remain. So this mandate is…underwhelming.
In Canuckistan, we’ve been doing this Referendum stuff for decades. The “nation” of Quebec has been trying to leave our Canuckistan Union since the 60’s. They’ve held & lost 2 referendums. One was essentially a tie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_referendum,_1995 It’s tough to break something important up on a result that is within the margin of error, as Canada almost did.
And not unlike the EU referendum, Quebec separatists left the details up to the imagination. Many separatists claimed they’d still use the Canadian dollar, use Canadian stamps, travel in Canada without passports, be part of preexisting trade deals Canada signed…and all kinds of things that NO Canadian would have supported. Out is Out.
Eventually, we came up with some rules. Nowhere near as clear as I’d like (especially in the raw voting numbers dept) but it’s something. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarity_Act
A bill to define clarity…cool….I just want Texas to go…..