The Khashoggi Affair

The world is talking about the alleged death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi….I have been told that there is no proof he was killed since there was no body (I guess that means that Jimmy Hoffa is still alive and living in Akron)……the problem with that theory is that it is the 21st century and electronics…..

Turkish authorities claim to have audio and video recordings that prove Saudi agents tortured and then murdered Jamal Khashoggi:

The recordings show that a Saudi security team detained Khashoggi in the consulate after he walked in on Oct. 2 to obtain an official document before his upcoming wedding, then killed him and dismembered his body, the officials said.

The audio recording in particular provides some of the most persuasive and gruesome evidence that the Saudi team is responsible for Khashoggi’s death, the officials said.

“The voice recording from inside the embassy lays out what happened to Jamal after he entered,” said one person with knowledge of the recording who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss highly sensitive intelligence.

“You can hear his voice and the voices of men speaking Arabic,” this person said. “You can hear how he was interrogated, tortured and then murdered.”

(antiwar.com)

Really how could they have such recordings?  Ever hear of an Apple Watch?

Turkish officials have an audio recording of the alleged killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi from the Apple Watch he wore when he walked into the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul over a week ago, a pro-government Turkish newspaper reported Saturday. The new claim was published by the Sabah newspaper, through which Turkish security officials have leaked much information about the case. Authorities recovered the audio from Khashoggi’s iPhone and his iCloud account, the newspaper said. The journalist had given his phones to his fiancée before entering the consulate. The newspaper also alleged Saudi officials tried to delete the recordings first by incorrectly guessing Khashoggi’s PIN on the watch, then later using the journalist’s finger. However, Apple Watches do not have a fingerprint ID unlock function like iPhones, notes the AP.

An Apple Watch can record audio and can sync that later with an iPhone over a Bluetooth connection. The newspaper’s account did not elaborate on how the Apple Watch synced that information to both the phone and Khashoggi’s iCloud account. Saudi Arabia has maintained the allegations against it are “baseless,” though an official early Saturday acknowledged for the first time some believe Khashoggi was killed by the kingdom. Turkish officials say they believe a 15-member Saudi “assassination squad” killed Khashoggi at the consulate; a Saudi-owned satellite news channel has begun referring to the 15-man team as “tourists,” without providing evidence to support the claim.

Funny how these apologists for the Saudis try to make light of the death of this man…..so sad.

Further Reading into the death of a journalist:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/10/12/the-khashoggi-incident-trumps-special-relationship-with-the-saudi-monarchy/

Can the Trump stumble bum policies do anything?

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-10-11/jamal-khashoggi-case-trump-has-options-with-saudi-arabia

Trump and his family may not be quick to try and make the Saudis accountable for barbaric behavior…..the rest of the world has stepped up while the US waffles…..

The Future Investment Initiative conference scheduled for later this month in Saudi Arabia looks to be in serious peril at this point, as the international backlash against Saudi Arabia over the disappearance, and presumptive killing, of journalist Jamal Khashoggi has soured many on having anything to do with the kingdom.

That isolation has meant that most of the major media partners meant to cover this conference have already withdrawn. The World Bank has also withdrawn, and a growing number of top business figures and financiers are pulling out as well.

Khashoggi disappeared earlier this month after entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Turkish officials say they have video evidence that Khashoggi was killed inside the consulate, explaining why he never was seen again.

Though the Saudis have denied any wrongdoing, there is growing backlash internationally, by both governments and private entities, over what is believed to have happened.

(antiwar.com)

This is how the Saudi butt boy responds to this situation……

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/donald-trump-jr-jamal-khashoggi-terrorism#.W8HzDfgnXsQ

Idle words from a privileged little prick.

The question has been asked…..Is this the end of the US-Saudi alliance?

The disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi last Tuesday is threatening to upend the terms of the decadeslong alliance between the United States and Saudi Arabia. In the nine days since Khashoggi, a Saudi Arabian resident of Virginia and a Washington Post columnist, was last seen entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, politicians, media figures, and foreign policy elites — even those who have fawned over the authoritarian Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman — have grown increasingly critical of the U.S.-Saudi alliance.

The U.S. has long given the Saudis a blank check, politically and militarily, and there have been voices advocating for a rethinking of that decades-old relationship for nearly as long as it has lasted. But the widespread belief that the Saudis assassinated Khashoggi inside their consulate has brought those voices squarely into the center. Suddenly, the relationship between Saudi Arabia and the United States is being called into fundamental question.

https://theintercept.com/2018/10/11/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-us-saudi-alliance/

My thought is that very little can break the financial bonds that the US depends on for the profits of our M-IC.

And the beat goes on……

There will be more to come…….

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52 thoughts on “The Khashoggi Affair

  1. It was reported here this morning that the Saudis are letting the Turkish authorities into the consulate later today, to ‘inspect the evidence’. After two weeks, that is just laughable.
    Best wishes, Pete.

    1. Under their direction….this tool MbS knew exactly what was happening…..keep in mind they have his Iwatch Cloud with the sounds of his torture and murder….chuq

      1. You know this for absolute certain? Then if you do, why does no one else? Or given that .. then why hasn’t the fact been substantiated on the media with anything besides speculative statements? Is there a Media source that has had access to this watch and heard what is on it? Have you? Has anybody?

      2. I guess if FOX is a sole news source….the rest of the world seem to be on another page….but that matters not these days chuq

      3. I am just tired of rogue Justice Systems convicting people without hard evidence. I have seen many lives ruined recently by the “Me Too” (humanoids) telling their unsunstantiated lies and having the media act and judge, jury and executioner to the point of sending people to jail whose guilt may never be proven or disproven according to the actual processes of the law.

      4. Too bad these epiphanies did not occur a few years ago…..few had any problem accusing Obama of crimes and misdemeanors….chuq

      5. and some un-named rogue squatter in the oval office had no problems perping crimes and misdemeanors either. Catch 22.

  2. My wife and I were in Washington a few years ago. We walked by the Saudi embassy. Scary building. Just walking by I was terrifing. It was big, dark building with no windows. Nothing would have convinced me to go inside.

    1. The kingdom is just about as scary…..you have to be on your toes when out and about as to not disturb the religion police…yes they have a unit called that….chuq

    2. If I am not mistaken, Jewish Synagogues are not big on windows either. How do those affect you when you walk by them?” (I am not so sure whether mosques have windows or not.).

      1. Was not just the windows. The style of the building Synagogues are warm and inviting. It is the way the building is built.

  3. Your post says … “Turkish authorities CLAIM to have …” (My comment: So if they CLAIM to have evidence, then let them put up or shut up. “Claim to have” will never stand in a court of law. It is circumstantial and hearsay and any judge would throw it out.

  4. what is BELIEVED to have happened. ( I can believe something all the day long but whether I believe it or not does not make it into a fact.)

  5. The newspaper’s account did not elaborate on how the Apple Watch synced that information to both the phone and Khashoggi’s iCloud account. (If there was no elaboration, then there probably was no knowledge to elaborate with and if there was no knowledge to elaborate with, the whole thing becomes somebody’s opinion.

    1. Apparently he turned it on before he entered….but that is not what some do want to hear….so not to worry there is enough falsities out there keep looking

  6. What is most disturbing but not surprising, is DJT’s reaction to this terrible situation. “Rogue killers”? Don’t want to insult MBS. “Remember the arms deals.”. DJT is more and more convincing the rest of the world (our “allies”) that he cannot be depended upon to lead. So, they are ignoring him when possible and reaching out on their own. He is the most dangerous person we have now. In my mind, he is a traitorous tyrant. One and the same.

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