Tag: Townhalls

A Game Of ‘Hide And Seek’

There has been some problems for the GOP when they return home and have a townhall so the peons can feel included in the process….in other words the townhalls are scaring the crap out of the GOP….

For the past six weeks, we have witnessed just how far President Donald Trump is willing to go to reshape America in his dystopian vision. Now we’re witnessing Republican fear of having to account for that reshaping.

Trump signed more executive orders during his first month than any president in over 40 years. USA TODAY has reported that there are more than 100,000 federal job cuts already. Half the country is, understandably, concerned, and they’re speaking out about it.

As a result, GOP lawmakers holding town halls nationwide are having to answer for Trump and Elon Musk’s reign of chaos – even in deep red districts. Instead of facing those criticisms head on, Republicans have decided to hide.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2025/03/05/republican-town-halls-anger-trump-musk/80865368007/

Time to hide from the public and only focus on the Robber Barons…..

NBC News reports that House Republicans have decided to “hit the brakes” on all this town hall rigaramarole. They’re “weary and wary,” says the article. And the party leaders are saying “oh bless your hearts!” and “oh you poor things!” and saying they shouldn’t do town halls anymore if they’re scary, and they ARE very scary:

Party leaders suggest that if lawmakers feel the need to hold such events, they do tele-town halls or at least vet attendees to avoid scenes that become viral clips, according to GOP sources.

A GOP aide said House Republican leaders are urging lawmakers to stop engaging in them altogether.

Hate those viral clips where a voter tells their congressman they don’t like getting fired from their important jobs so that a South African terrorist and his team of young incels can lob nuclear bombs into the very functioning of the federal government under the obviously fake auspices of “finding fraud and waste.” Some of those voters even suggest that Republican congressmen have power to do something about it, if they’d pull their mouths off Donald Trump’s anus long enough!

https://www.wonkette.com/p/republicans-quitting-town-halls-to

Just yesterday another GOPer had a run in with his constituents….

Things did … not go well for GOP Rep. Chuck Edwards at a town hall in Asheville, North Carolina, this week as he was grilled about cuts made by the Trump administration and Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency. ABC News reports that the Edwards town hall, held in a college auditorium and attended by hundreds, got so heated that security eventually had to escort Edwards out of the building. “You don’t get to do this to us!” one attendee yelled at Edwards during the gathering, which the AP notes was 90 minutes of Edwards enduring “a constant barrage of jeers, expletives, and searing questions on Trump administration policies.”

I don’t want to hear about your latest week in your office,” said one constituent who pressed Edwards on Trump’s push to squeeze a mineral deal out of Ukraine, as well as on Trump’s apparent plans to annex Greenland and Canada. Another furious attendee was shown being led out of the meeting by security after directing that fury toward Edwards. “And you wonder why folks don’t want to do these town halls,” the “visibly exhausted” lawmaker said at one point, per the AP. The incident in Asheville comes after the head of the House GOP’s campaign unit instructed Republican lawmakers earlier this month not to hold any more in-person town hall meetings, due to public backlash, per Politico. Edwards apparently ignored that order.

How long can they hide?

Will they show some cajones and face the people or will they hide in their office like the scared cowards they are?

A political game of hide and seek…..now the GOP faithfvul will have to depend on misinformation and conspiracy theories to try and understand what their elected leaders are up to in this time of political chaos.

And sadly they will probably get away with it.

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Is It Anger Or Outside Agitators?

The glory that is our Congress, especially thye GOP, have been having townhalls after a month of His Highness’ program to ‘save America’ and it has not been going so well….Georgia, Tennessee and Missouri townhalls have shown the anger that has been leveled at the Reps when they are at home (these are just the ones that I know off first hand there may be more)…..and now the GOP has slammed on the brakes on such meet and greet with the peasants.

Well, we guess Republican congressmen have tried this town hall thing and it went poorly for them, so now they’re going to go back to hiding from voters. It’s not like they believe in democracy or answering to their constituents anyway. What’s the point of Donald Trump’s and Elon Musk’s fascist Nazi takeover if Republicans have to be held accountable or face re-election? As Trump said on the campaign trail, just come out and vote this time — he was talking to white supremacist Christian nationalists — and you won’t have to vote anymore, ever again.

No more people who jeer at you and tell you to fuck yourself when you tell them their unemployment is all part of God’s glorious plan. No more people to scream at you to do your job or get offended when you say them asking you questions is just like January 6. Don’t these peasants understand their congressman’s job is to help Dear Leader usher in a new golden age dictatorship of autocracy and Nazism?

NBC News reports that House Republicans have decided to “hit the brakes” on all this town hall rigaramarole. They’re “weary and wary,” says the article. And the party leaders are saying “oh bless your hearts!” and “oh you poor things!” and saying they shouldn’t do town halls anymore if they’re scary, and they ARE very scary:

Party leaders suggest that if lawmakers feel the need to hold such events, they do tele-town halls or at least vet attendees to avoid scenes that become viral clips, according to GOP sources.

A GOP aide said House Republican leaders are urging lawmakers to stop engaging in them altogether.

https://www.wonkette.com/p/republicans-quitting-town-halls-to

In typical fashion the GOP is blaming outside agitators for the problem….because apparently they want to believe that their assaults on the people’s lives is nothing for them to get angry at so it must be those damn outside agitators.

First and foremost….who are these ‘outside agitators?

Does GOP seriously believe that their actions could not anger anyone of their faithful?

This way they do not have to actually hear in person from people upset with them or their clueless leader.

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A Trump Townhall

I know I am a sucker for punishment but I had to watch the newest townhall by Trump to see what new manure spewed from his big mouth and I was not disappointed….

Donald Trump again made a comparison between his own legal troubles and the imprisonment and death of Alexei Navalny, doubling down on comments he made shortly after the Russian dissident died while jailed by Russian President Vladimir Putin in a remote arctic prison. “Navalny is a very sad situation and he’s very brave, he was a very brave guy,” Trump said in response to a question from Laura Ingraham during a Fox News Channel town hall that aired Tuesday night after being recorded earlier in the day in South Carolina. “He went back, he could have stayed away, and frankly probably would have been a lot better off staying away and talking from outside of the country as opposed to having to go back in, because people thought that could happen, and it did happen.” More, plus two other notable topics from the town hall:

Navalny, continued: “And it’s a horrible thing, but it’s happening in our country, too,” Trump said, suggesting that his criminal indictments are evidence America is “turning into a communist country in many ways.” “I got indicted four times … all because of the fact that I’m in politics. They indicted me on things that are so ridiculous,” he said. He also mentioned his recent loss in a civil fraud trial. “It is a form of Navalny,” he said. “It is a form of communism, of fascism.” He did not mention Putin at all.

Nikki Haley: Four days ahead of the GOP presidential primary in South Carolina, where the state’s own former two-term governor is trailing him in the polls, Trump said of Haley, “You’re not supposed to lose your home state. It shouldn’t happen anyway and she’s losing it bigly.” He also said once again that he’s ruled out Haley as a running mate. “I don’t think she knows how to get out” of the race, Trump continued. “She just can’t get herself to get out.”

Joe Biden: Trump said he doesn’t believe the president will debate him. Asked by Ingraham if he’d challenge Biden to a debate, he replied, “I’ll do it right now on your show. I’ll challenge him right now.” He said he’d “take anybody” as debate moderator, adding, “I think you have an obligation in this case, you really have an obligation to debate. As many as necessary. I could do it starting now.” Biden has not said whether he will participate in any debates.

Typical BS as usual.

Comparing his legal problems to those of Navalny was icing on the cake….what a self-absorbed,  shallow evil person.

You may thank me for saving you from this comedy skit.

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“Il Duce” Sh*t Show

Last night the country and possibly the world was treated to a CNN town hall with the one and the only Donald Trump….(yes Irene I watched it and yes it was decision that I will regret)….

I’ll everyone is waiting with bated breath for my take on the town hall…..well here is what someone thought of the night.s clown show….

During a contentious CNN town hall Wednesday night, former President Donald Trump dug in on his lies about the 2020 election, downplayed the violence on Jan. 6, 2021, and repeatedly insulted the woman whom a civil jury this week found him liable of sexually abusing and defaming, the AP reports. (He at one point referred to E. Jean Carroll as a “wack job,” drawing laughter from the audience.) Trump, returning to the network after years of acrimony, also refused to say whether he wants Ukraine to win the war against Russian aggression and said the US “might as well” default on its debt obligation, despite the potentially devastating economic consequences.

The live, televised event—held in early-voting New Hampshire—underscored the challenges of fact-checking Trump in real time. The former president was cheered on and applauded by an audience of Republican and unaffiliated voters who plan to vote in the GOP primary, as moderator Kaitlan Collins sometimes struggled to correct the record as Trump steamrolled with untrue statements. “You are a nasty person,” he snapped at her at one point. He repeatedly doubled down on his lies that the 2020 election had been “rigged,” even though state and federal election officials, his own campaign and White House aides, and dozens of courts, including Republican judges, have said there is no evidence to support his claims.

He also displayed no remorse for what happened on Jan. 6, when a mob of his supporters violently stormed the Capitol in a bid to halt the certification of Biden’s win. He excused his delayed response that day—he was silent for more than three hours as the carnage unfolded—pulling out a printout of his tweeted timeline as a form of defense. Instead, he lashed out at the Black police officer who shot and killed rioter Ashli Babbitt, calling him a “thug,” despite a Justice Department finding that the shooting was justified. And he said he is inclined to pardon “a large portion” of the rioters charged in the attack. More than 670 people have been convicted of crimes related to that day, including some found guilty of seditious conspiracy or assaulting police officers.

Trump also rejected a suggestion that he apologize to his former vice president, Mike Pence, who was targeted by the mob after Trump wrongly insisted that Pence had the power to overturn the election results. “I don’t feel he was in any danger,” he said. In fact, Trump said, Pence was the one who “did something wrong.” He would not commit to accepting the results of the next election, either, saying he would do so only if he feels “it’s an honest election”—as he said before the 2020 election. The difficulties of interviewing Trump live on air became immediately apparent, and as the evening wore on, Collins became more aggressive in trying to pin Trump down on specifics, trying half a dozen times to get him to say what he would do if a federal abortion ban were to reach his desk. He said that he would “negotiate” so “people are happy.”

Anyone that thought this would be anything other than what it was is so deluded that I could sell them my bridge in Brooklyn.

It is exactly what I thought it would be….a moronic clown show.

Yep–a typical Trump Sh*t Show!

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Townhall Tango

Thursday night we had battling townhalls….Trump on NBC and Biden on ABC…..I gave an analysis on Friday’s post……https://lobotero.com/2020/10/16/those-battling-townhalls/

The whole evening was a study in chaos and conflict…..and I watched and read all the analyses and the noise surrounding the evening….

First let me say….Trump is the only person to lose a debate without having an opponent.

Thursday’s night presidential town halls were very different from each other, and a similar theme has emerged in the political post-mortems. What was originally supposed to be a face-to-face debate “morphed into a long-distance study in contrasts,” write Alexander Burns and Katie Glueck at the New York Times. Essentially, the events provided viewers with a choice: Which style of president do you want, combative or, well, dull?

  • The “dueling town halls were like a choose-your-own-ending book, letting us peer into the future and see what the two election outcomes would be like,” write Mike Allen and Margaret Talev at Axios.
  • “It came off less like a split screen than a breach in the political universe—Die Hard versus It’s a Wonderful Life,” per David Siders and Anita Kumar at Politico.
  • “On one channel, Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood. On the other, a rerun of Celebrity Deathmatch. Or, at least, that’s how it felt,” write Scott Bixby and Asawin Suebsaeng at the Daily Beast. That wasn’t the only comparison to Mister Rogers. Biden’s town hall “feels like I am watching an episode of Mister Rodgers [sic] Neighborhood,” tweeted Trump campaign adviser Mercedes Schlapp. USA Today notes that “Mr. Rogers” was soon trending.
  • The events “appeared to be broadcast from entirely different dimensions,” according to a story by Michael Scherer, Jenna Johnson, and Josh Dawsey in the Washington Post. “The soft-spoken Biden leaned back in a white chair, relaxed and conversational as he hit upon notes of optimism and uplift. Trump’s appearance was heated and at times abrasive, with the candidate leaning forward as he defended his record and challenged the motivations of moderator Savannah Guthrie.”
  • “In a nightmare alternate universe, Americans find hope by viewing films from a different dimension, where life unfolds as normal,” writes David Frum in the Atlantic. “That’s the plot of the Amazon science-fiction series The Man in the High Castle. It was also the experience many Americans had as they flipped back and forth between two town halls last night.”
  • “Unsurprisingly, Trump’s town hall was much more combative than Biden’s,” writes Kira Davis at RedState. “The Election Commission should have just gone ahead with an in-person debate, since Savannah Guthrie just ended up debating the president anyway. The ratings numbers will be interesting to see, but flipping back and forth between Trump and Biden, it was crystal clear that the more entertaining conversation was over at NBC.”
  • “As a journalist whose job involves trying to write articles people read, I was, frankly, sad to have been assigned to watch the Biden town hall, which was just not that interesting,” writes Matthew Yglesias at Vox. “But as a citizen, it was tremendously reassuring.”

All in all the evening was a waste of time……voters already know who they will vote for….all the evening was was either for entertainment…..or to induce the gag reflex.

But who won the numbers game?

Donald Trump often has been a TV ratings hit, but maybe not this time. Preliminary results from his nearly head-to-head matchup Thursday night with Joe Biden show the president bringing up the rear, Variety reports. Biden, whose 90-minute event was carried by ABC, is averaging 13.9 million total viewers in early returns. Trump’s hourlong appearance is coming in at 13.1 million combined on NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC. The difference was bigger when comparing the broadcast networks. MSNBC had about 1.7 million viewers and CNBC 700,000, which puts Biden ahead of Trump on the two major networks, 13.9 million to 10.7 million. The final numbers aren’t in yet. ABC’s livestream on YouTube also outdrew the Trump feed.

Before the town halls, both campaigns predicted a ratings triumph for Trump, per CNN; TV executives agreed. Jason Miller, a Trump campaign aide, had said, “We’re gonna have a much bigger audience than Joe.” But the former vice president has shown his ratings strength this campaign. The Democratic presidential nominee averaged 6.7 million viewers in a town hall shown last week on NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC, while Trump’s event last month on ABC drew 3.8 million. Biden also outdrew Trump in their national conventions this summer. Biden had 24.6 million viewers, while Trump drew 23.8 million to the Republican National Convention.

Will any of this equate to votes?

We have the 3rd and last debate in 5 days (that is if Trump does not find a way to weasel out of it)…..should prove to be as worthless as the past ones.

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Those Battling Townhalls

Last night there was no presidential debate but rather the two candidates had townhalls at the same time….for those political junkies I will breakdown the night for you…..

I need to insert a disclaimer….I did not watch either townhall…..my info came from the internet…..I did watch about 10 minutes of each in re-run….my first impressions were …..silly sh*t….that serves NO purpose.

I shall begin with our president…….

It was a night of dueling town halls. Joe Biden appeared on ABC News, and you can read highlights here. This file has highlights from President Trump’s town hall on NBC News, via the AP, USA Today, Politico, and the Washington Post:

  • Trump said he has no more symptoms of COVID-19. “Nothing whatsoever.” He said he wasn’t sure whether he was tested on the day of his debate with Biden. “Probably,” he said.
  • Trump opted not to issue a blanket disavowal of QAnon. “I know nothing about QAnon,” he said. “I do know that they are very much against pedophilia. I agree with that.”
  • The president chafed at moderator Savannah Guthrie’s question on whether he denounced white supremacy. “You always do this,” Trump said. “I denounce white supremacy. What’s your next question?” He added that he’s “denounced white supremacy for years.”
  • Trump said he might owe more than $400 million related to his family business empire, as the New York Times has reported, but he said it wasn’t owed to Russia or “sinister people.” When asked if he owed to any foreign entities, he said, “Probably.” Trump also maintained that his debts were relatively small: “$400 million is a peanut.”
  • Trump opted not to weigh in on Roe v. Wade, saying he did not want his critics to suggest he was sending a signal to Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett. “I don’t want to do anything to influence anything right now,” he said, adding that he did not ask Barrett about the case.
  • Trump said he would replace ObamaCare with a cheaper, more effective alternative, but he did not provide details when pressed.
  • He asserted that mail-in voting is plagued by widespread fraud, but when Guthrie said there is no evidence of that, he shot back, “How can you say that? You do read newspapers? You do watch the news?”
  • One questioner drew a smattering of applause when she complimented the president’s smile. “You’re so handsome when you smile.”
  • At the end, when asked to make a plea to undecided voters on why they should vote for him, Trump said he deserves it because he’s “done a great job” and “next year is going to be better than ever before.”

Next the townhall of Joe Biden…….

The dueling debates are over. President Trump appeared on NBC News, and you can read highlights here. This file has highlights from Joe Biden’s town hall on ABC News, via the AP, Politico, USA Today, and the Washington Post:

  • “He panicked,” Biden said of Trump’s coronavirus response. He added that Trump “missed enormous opportunities and kept saying things that weren’t true” on the virus.
  • Biden again said he is “not a fan” of packing the Supreme Court with more judges, but he didn’t rule out the idea. “It depends on how this turns out,” he said in reference to the Amy Coney Barrett nomination. “It depends on how much they rush this.” If she is confirmed before Election Day, as now seems likely, Biden said he is “open to considering what happens from that point on.” He said he would make his position clear before Nov. 3.
  • Biden suggested he would prefer to make a COVID vaccine mandatory. “It depends on the state of the nature of the vaccine, when it comes out and how it’s being distributed,” he said. “But I think we should think about making it mandatory.” However, when moderator George Stephanopoulos asked how he could enforce such a rule, Biden acknowledged he couldn’t. “That’s the problem.”
  • Biden said he does not want get rid of all of Trump’s tax cuts, only the ones for the nation’s wealthiest, the 1%. “That’s what I’m talking about eliminating, not all the tax cuts that are out there.”
  • The former VP said he stood by his statement from a quarter-century ago that “more cops mean less crime,” but he added a qualifier. “Yes, if in fact they’re involved in community policing not jump squads.” On police brutality, he said, “You can ban chokeholds but beyond that you need to teach people how to de-escalate circumstances.”
  • Biden said he regretted supporting the 1994 federal crime bill, which he was influential in getting passed. Was it a mistake? “Yes, it was,” he said. “But here’s where the mistake came. The mistake came in terms of what the states did locally.”
  • A loss to Trump could say, “I’m a lousy candidate, and I didn’t do a good job,” said Biden. “I hope that it doesn’t say that we are as racially, ethnically and religiously at odds with one another as it appears the president wants us to be.”

There you have both camps dueling on the same night…..the term “townhall” was wrong…..it was like the debates…candidates asked lameass questions and they avoid a direct answer.

This was a waste of time for most people know who they will vote for and this just ate up some quality airtime that Dancing With The Stars could have used.

Next report will be the third and last debate (if it is held) on 22 October……

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2017–Sh*t Happens

Does anyone remember back to the Dark Ages……the Obama years?  2009 the Dems would try to hold their local town halls for a meet and greet with their voters…..they were disastrous….yelling, screaming, chanting and other assorted chaotic meetings.

My my….how history repeats itself.

The Dems were spineless in their 2009 town halls and in 2017 the Repubs have gone spineless at their town halls…..

Republican lawmakers around the country are facing tough and often angry questions from constituents who are packing town hall meetings or showing up at their offices.

Among their grievances is that the GOP plans to repeal the Affordable Care Act, or “Obamacare,” with no replacement.

The pushback echoes the same raucous confrontations that Democrats faced in 2009, when tea party activists sprang into action to oppose what they saw as dangerous government overreach by President Barack Obama.

Fascinating!  Both parties catching grief over the same subject only 8 years apart.

What does this tell us?

One, the politicians are finding ways to avoid the voter.

Two, politicians regardless the party are spineless.

MSM: Give Third Parties More Exposure

Believe it or not there are other candidates for the presidency beyond the corrupted 2 parties we hear about every day.

The Mainstream Media could do the right thing and let the American people know they have more choices than tweedle-dee and Tweedle -dum…….as a matter of fact CNN has gained some support from the town halls they held with Libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson…..

The Libertarian Party Town Hall event hosted by CNN on Wednesday night was the highest rated show on cable news in the coveted 25-54 demographic for the night.

More than 1.6 million viewers tuned in to the hour-long event featuring Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson and vice presidential candidate William Weld.

Perhaps more important than the raw numbers is the massive uptick in viewership for Wednesday’s event compared to a similar Libertarian Town Hall discussion hosted by CNN on June 22. Overall viewership was up 74 percent and viewership in the 25-54 demographic increased by 101 percent—more than doubling the “in demographic” audience for the first town hall with Johnson and Weld, CNN reported Thursday.

Source: Huge Ratings Uptick for CNN’s Second Libertarian Town Hall, As 1.6 Million Tune In – Hit & Run : Reason.com

My hat goes off to them for having the alternative townhall….the American voter needs more exposure to alternative candidates…..maybe then we can get down to repairing this f*cked up process.

Here’s a thought….why not do the same with the Green Party…..that require backbone and I just somehow do not think they can manage it.

After I wrote that thought about CNN…news has come down that they will hold a Green Party townhall on 17 August

As the Green Party convenes in Houston this weekend to formally nominate Dr. Jill Stein for president, the party’s stars appear more aligned than ever. The Greens have a catchy unofficial slogan: “Jill, Not Hill.” There’s a new generation of politically rootless democratic socialists to woo. The Green Party is predicting it will be on the most state ballots in its history. And Stein is getting more media coverage than any Green since 2000 nominee Ralph Nader, having just secured a prime-time CNN town hall for August 17.

The town hall is a critical opportunity, since Stein is the least known of the four top candidates, including Libertarian Party nominee and former Governor Gary Johnson. And while she has certainly been to political candidate school—male pundits won’t have to remind her to smile—she doesn’t have the inspiring cadence of an Obama or the gruff everyman shtick of a Sanders. Her even keel and consistently left-wing outlook goes down easily with the Democracy Now! audience, but she’ll need to raise her game if she’s to connect on CNN.

Source: Can the Green Party Win With ‘Jill, Not Hill’? – POLITICO Magazine

I stand corrected…..and I will be watching…..will you?

Watch How The Tea Party Talks About Obama When They Think No One Is Listening: “Foreign-Born America-Hating Communist” – Occupy Democrats

I watched this vid and was not surprised at the comments made by this old fart.  You see I live next door to where this happened and it is a typical attitude of old white guys.  Basically it is a way to demonize without using the “N” word….this is NOTHING new!~

read it and weep for our country!

Watch How The Tea Party Talks About Obama When They Think No One Is Listening: “Foreign-Born America-Hating Communist” – Occupy Democrats.