Remember….Remember…..The 5th Of November

DISCLAIMER:  I am in NO way advocating any violence or violent act….all am doing is just…. saying……also this post was written before the tragic shooting of Rep. Gabby Giffords……

The year is 1605, a gang of conspirators are planning the ultimate political statement…..the “Big Bang” theory….if you will……

Remember, remember, the 5th of November
The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I see of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.
Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes,
‘Twas his intent.
To blow up the King and the Parliament.
Three score barrels of powder below.
Poor old England to overthrow.

And now the history lesson that you all so deserve……..the most notable of the conspirators mentioned is one Guy Fawkes…..

Guy Fawkes is the most famous among the conspirators who took part in 1605’s “Gunpowder Plot,” a failed attempt to blow up King James I of England and the Houses of Parliament. Fawkes and his partners were Roman Catholics who decided desperate measures were required to replace the king, a Protestant. The plot was hatched in the spring of 1604 by Robert Catesby, and eventually came down to a plan to blow up the parliament on 5 November 1605, the date of an official opening attended by members of both houses as well as the king. Fawkes and a dozen others took part in the plot, with Fawkes designated as the one in charge of the explosives. (During the 1590s he served in the Spanish army in the Netherlands, and it is thought he had experience with munitions.) Fawkes and his cohorts stashed 36 barrels — nearly two tons — of gunpowder in a rented cellar beneath the House of Lords. A search of the cellar the night of 4 November found the explosives and Fawkes, and he was arrested and tortured; within a few days the other conspirators were either killed or captured. On 31 January he was executed, after being tried and convicted of treason. Because the plot was foiled, 5 November was designated a holiday, but over time the holiday has also become a celebration of Fawkes’s revolutionary intent.Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/guy-fawkes#ixzz19dqCeDhy

I would bet that you, the reader, is asking just what I am going on about and why….am I right?

Over the centuries it has been shown that the people are unwilling to change the way things are being done in politics and for that reason I believe the Fawkes was not too wrong in his thinking….

Since the people are truly unwilling to do anything about the corrupt and ineffectual nature of their politicians maybe some form of direct action is needed….and I would say that Fawkes’s approach would be considered as just that….a direct action.

Years ago in my more radical days….I saw that the people were content with the lousy job that politicians are capable of and I said then that maybe we should call a joint session of Congress….gas all the reps and senators and then send a letter back to their state’s and districts say….they are all dead….start over!

Since politicians are NOT afraid of the will of the people…..Maybe then we would find some people willing to work for the country….knowing what would possibly happen if they didn’t…..we could move forward and cease the endless array of political games……

Just A Thought!  Just thinking out loud!

16 thoughts on “Remember….Remember…..The 5th Of November

  1. So you’re not recommending we all go buy a barrel of gun powder? Nuts!

    Anyway, I know of Fawkes and his story. Not exactly the route Gandhi chose. LOL…

  2. Word to the wise… you may want to be careful about what you put on wordpress. I’m not sayin’ – I’m just sayin’…. get me?
    Over the summer, I met a guy in this somewhat yuppie bar who was – more or less – a homeland security agent. Mainly, he searched blogs for key words and phrases that were threatening to the government.
    According to him, a pre-teen boy had put something on Facebook regarding the safety of the president. Next day, government agents were at his door.
    Otherwise, a great post. Action should be taken. I think most people (including me) are struggling with the question how do we affect the government for serious change? Not this ineffectual bullshit the OWS protesters are glorifying. And how do you do it in a way that doesn’t cause violence?
    I applaud the protesters for their willingness, but what’s really come of it?

  3. Reblogged this on In Saner Thought and commented:

    The more I think about it….I believe that Mr. Fawkes was on to something….if we cannot get rid of them the right way then other options should be available….just saying….chuq

  4. Previous comments pretty much encircle the discussion. Are “good ideas” that have never worked still good ideas? We’re intelligent beings, or so I’ve been told, so why can’t we use that intelligence to come up with new and effective world-changing philosophies that the polis can adopt and use? We can do it with technology, why not with philosophy? Is it that non-material concepts are weaker than material concepts? Is it that we’ve abandoned our higher intelligence in favour of the physical because it gives “instant” results? And how many more rhetorical questions do I want to pose?

    How about his extremely unpopular concept, which is actually the way I’ve been proceeding for several decades after my years of activism to which I would never return: self empowerment. How about, I face some facts, that all power leads to corruption, no matter how it is wielded. How about, I change myself in relation to the world around me; I leave the herd, I learn another language than basic bleat; I focus on me, and what sort of individual would I choose to be if I were to be cloned and every Earthian was to be re-designed according to my modeling of mind, of character. What main features would I provide? First, I’d be a compassionate being, no holds barred, no excuses. I’d be empathetic to a fault. I’d be entirely free from any belief system, be they religious, political or economic. I’d be raceless, nationless, homeless. I would claim nothing as my own, and own nothing. I would model a need-free life that harms nothing and no one. And at this point I start repeating myself, so that must suffice. Key word in changing myself: compassion.

      1. Ah… bird of a feather, maybe? I wasn’t taught such at home. I began to suspect compassion’s existence when reading child fiction, fairy tales and proverbs. Of course later I had to get tangled in many of the tried and failed ways change agents have used before I decided enough was enough. “Let the dead bury their own dead, you follow me.” Only I learned it wasn’t a religion I would follow, but an idea that has served me well also. Back when I began to see that my desire to “change the world” wasn’t out of any great love for the world, but out of a totally selfish motive (I was fixating on “the end” and I wanted to avoid the consequences of globally insane behaviour) is when I knew something was wrong. I wasn’t “selfless” as I’d convinced myself my activism claimed. My commitment to non-violence wasn’t absolute. I knew that when push came to shove, I’d choose revolutionary violence to make those changes if nothing else moved the mountain. But a mountain moved is still a mountain: it’s been moved, but it remains as the very same mountain. So instead of moving the mountain, I went to it, climbed it and looked at the world from that vantage point. Everything suddenly changed – only for me, but that was, and remains, enough.

  5. Correction of typo: “How about his extremely unpopular concept” obviously should read “…about this extremely… “

  6. Since the human creature uses politics as a means of entertaining himself culturally, it is only natural we experience unending conflict; all political solutions lead to it, for you cannot please everyone. As long as we continue to engage on a national, or tribal level, there will be conflict…

    Makes me think this experiment wasn’t one of Mama Nature’s most successful ideas….

    gigoid, the dubious

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