College of Economic Knowledge
Class is in session……..
Here a cut….there a cut….everywhere a cut, cut……..the news is just crammed with this story or that….this program needs a cut or that…….nut what is the truth?
A little history from the way back machine (a time machine of TV fame)…..
We all know the story of the days before and after the Great Depression, whether you think FDR was right or wrong, we did come out of the depression in a much better place than it began….But…….
In economic terms, it’s the New Deal on steroids. The top tax rate goes up to 91 percent. Nonetheless, government spending is so high that by 1945 the deficit is 123 percent of GDP. Unemployment is ended by employing 16 million people directly in the armed forces and millions more producing war material and supporting the military.
The Great Depression is finally over.
When taxes were raised the economy improved. Every time. Deficits had no negative effect on the economy. Indeed, when deficits were at their highest, the economy boomed.
After spending was cut — to balance the budget — a recession immediately followed. When taxes were raised and government spending resumed — with deficits — that recession ended.
When taxes were raised again, and government spending went sky high, the Great Depression finally ended. (Thanx to Political Wire for the reports)
Most creditable economist say this is not the time for massive spending cuts….and the nickle and dime stuff of the GOP is just plain moronic……you will NOT get the deficit under control by attacking NPR or Planned Parenthood or a program for infant children….in other words this is all a pack of tightly packaged CRAP!
The GOP promises of deficit reduction is a FRAUD! Why else would abortion, marriage, etc be more important than immediate work on the budget? People! It is a FRAUD!
Recently a company that got its “fair” share of the bailout money, Goldman-Sachs, has said in a report that spending cuts would hurt a fragile recovery….and they are not alone in those findings……
Just after a Goldman Sachs report predicted that proposed House Republican budget cuts would hurt economic growth, a new Moody’s report finds the same.
Key finding: “The House Republicans’ proposal would reduce 2011 real GDP growth by 0.5% and 2012 growth by 0.2 percentage points This would mean some 400,000 fewer jobs created by the end of 2011 and 700,000 fewer jobs by the end of 2012.”
Furthermore, the report claims “a government shutdown lasting longer than a couple of weeks would do much more damage to the economy.”
We can ignore a lot of things but this report CANNOT be ignored…..
The spending cuts in the Republicans’ budget proposal would cost the country up to 700,000 jobs and hurt the country’s economic growth, according to Moody’s chief economist. Mark Zandi estimates that the proposed budget would reduce GDP growth by 0.5% in 2011 and another 0.2% in 2012, hurting job creation, Politico reports. “While long-term government spending restraint is vital,” Zandi wrote, “too much cutting too soon would be counterproductive.” The economy is currently adding 100,000-150,000 jobs a month. But Zandi says that until that figure hits 200,000, significantly cutting spending “would be taking an unnecessary chance with the recovery.” John Boehner scoffed at the report. “The fact that a relentless cheerleader for the failed ‘stimulus’ refuses to understand that ending the spending binge will help the private sector create jobs is sad, but not surprising,” he said. But Zandi isn’t the first economist to make the case. A Goldman Sachs analysis last week concluded that the House plan would cut economic growth by 1.5%-2% this year.
How much more evidence do you need? Cuts bad…to put it in terms that are easily remembered…..but if you need to do some research (and God I hope you will) then try this…..politifact.com/subjects/feder…..
These companies have NO reason to lie….ergo the GOP plan is a FRAUD! The world will NOT end!
Pay attention! Things can get worse and they probably WILL!
Sorry – don’t agree at all… 🙁
Apparently I missed something…but it is early (how is that for an excuse?)….LOL
No – I just fundamentally disagree – if the administration will not put its own house in order, how can you EVER expect the people to start behaving responsibly?
I DO agree that the cuts being discussed and proposed are a joke and ALL politically motivated (and they are IMO not halfway deep enough), BUT the truth is that the examples and figures you quote are all from an era when things were VERY different from now. That’s not least since, at the time, the US was the biggest, possibly the ONLY global player. You do not occupy that illustrious position any more and you (like all of us and particularly including the UK) HAVE to take account of your standing in the world both financially and otherwise – THAT means learning for the first time in your history to be fiscally responsible – both individually AND nationally.
Fat chance of that happening for both the US AND the EU, I know. So, perhaps my kids should arrange to meet your kids in whatever slum they both live in, in twenty or thirty years time – UNLESS they wake up, smell the coffee, and all move to India, China, or South America (if any of them will have them of course).
You know I agree with you on this……my point was that NOTHING they are doing is working to the fiscal responsibility that we all want and seek….
But that’s my point – I know what you are saying and at that level you are right – what they propose to cut is SOLELY politically motivated. The truth is we can’t afford ANY of it and I don’t see proping up a crap economy with government (OUR) money is any answer at all. Deficit spending is not an option – heck, I’ve called the national pension schemes in both our countries a Ponzi scheme, but both our economies are really nothing more than giant ponzi schemes! We ALWAYS pay out more than we make – how can that go on for ever?
And oncxe again we are on the same page….I will work on a post about the land of contradictions…the US….that great minds thing…again….
The Way Back machine, Mr. Peabody, nice! This post caused me to reach over to my bookshelf and take down the book: America’s Greatest Depression 1929-1941 by Lester V. Chandler, and yes, everything you say is right on! Except, try telling that to Obama haters, or, to balance the budget or die–believers. I have; and do I get reflection? No, I get “it’s time to gun up!” I’m in a state denial, I don’t know whether to cry or die laughing! Keep up the good work!
bwin…thanx for the props…I attempt to be as factual as I can…the sad part is the American people do NOT know what they want……they want whatever will not affect them personally….and when you have 300 million people thinking like that….NOTHING will get done to solve any problem…..
I think it means something when the vampire squid says that the GOP’s proposals will push unemployment up.
Think about it…if you cut funds jobs could and probably be lost……polls show that Americans do not want needed programs like SS or Medicare to be cut….so where do you find cuts that add up to the number we need to fix the deficit?