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“Trump Is Wrong”

(A break from my tradition of trying to avoid any politics on the weekend….sorry but this was just too interesting to pass up)

Holy Sh*t!

Were those words truly uttered?

A high ranking GOPer that is not kissing the ring or drinking the Kool-aid…….and he was not struck down by lightening from the Orange god

Those words were spoken by ex-VP Mike Pence in a speech to the Federalist Society……..

Former Vice President Mike Pence has presented his strongest, clearest contradiction yet of his former boss’ false claim that he could have thrown out the Electoral College results in the 2020 election. “President Trump is wrong,” Pence said Friday, the New York Times reports. “I had no right to overturn the election.” Trump said last weekend that Pence, as president of the Senate, had the authority to kick back the results to the states on Jan. 6, 2021—as Trump had pressured him to do—but refused.

Until now, Pence hasn’t addressed the issue so directly, saying he and Trump won’t ever “see eye to eye about that day” and the like. But in speaking to the Federalist Society on Friday near Orlando, Pence didn’t hedge. Although some Republicans believe he had power over President Biden’s victory, Pence said, “Under the Constitution, I had no right to change the outcome of our election.” Legal scholars and leaders of both parties agree with Pence’s interpretation of the Constitution, per the Times. Similarly, he told the conservative legal organization, per the Washington Post, “Kamala Harris will have no right to overturn the election when we beat them in 2024.”

Pence fell back unto the Constitution (you remember that document, right?)

“Our Founders were deeply suspicious of consolidated power in the nation’s capital and were rightly concerned with foreign interference if presidential elections were decided in the capital,” Pence said. “But there are those in our party who believe that as the presiding officer over the joint session of Congress, I possessed unilateral authority to reject electoral college votes. And I heard this week, President Trump said I had the right to ‘overturn the election’. President Trump is wrong…I had no right to overturn the election.”

Was that a GOPer growing a spine?

Or is Pence posturing for a run in 2024?

I think it is the later….if so he may be one of the few that will not be in Trump’s pocket in 2024.

Whatcha think?

Turn The Page!

I Read, I Write, You KNow

“lego ergo scribo”

Closing Thought–05May21

Happy Cinco De Mayo!

Will Mike Pence challenge his master in 2024?

It has been reported that Trump is vaguely promising he will run for president again 2024….but now Pence is signalling a plan as well….

In his first public address since the end of the Trump administration, former Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday put down a marker for a potential return to elected office, telling an audience in early-voting South Carolina that he will spend the coming months “pushing back on the liberal agenda” he says is wrong for the country. “We’ve got to guard our values … by offering a positive agenda to the American people, grounded in our highest ideal,” Pence told an audience of several hundred at a Columbia dinner sponsored by a conservative Christian nonprofit. “Now, over the coming months, I’ll have more to say about all of that.” The choice of South Carolina for Pence’s post-administration debut has definite political overtones, helping him develop exposure for a potential 2024 presidential bid, theAP reports.

 

Pence, who since leaving office has been doing work with the Heritage Foundation and Young America’s Foundation, has not indicated if he plans a future run. Earlier Thursday, South Carolina Democratic Chair Trav Robertson said Pence was coming to the state to “try and salvage his relationship” with Trump supporters irked that Pence didn’t support efforts to block certification of the 2020 presidential election. On Thursday, Pence promised to reveal more of his ideas soon, promising that he would be challenging the Biden administration’s “avalanche of liberal policies” as he ramps up speaking engagements around the country.

What will he do if the master of the GOP decides to run….will their be any challengers or will he cowtow to the Orange man from Florida or will they all prove that they are truly the cowards I believe them to be?

Turn The Page!

I Read, I Write, You Know

“lego ergo scribo”

VP Pence

Let’s say that Trump is removed from office….not saying he should be or will be…..just a supposition here…..if he leaves then Pence as VP will take over as president and what would his admin look like if this happened?

The U.S. House of Representatives, after several months of hearing testimony on the potential abuse of executive power within the Trump administration, voted along party lines, with the Democratic majority succeeding in impeaching the President of the United States for just the 3rd time in the nation’s history.

Taking charge after Barack Obama, analysts wobbled this way or that on what sort of policy Donald Trump would implement. A complete lack of a voting record, combined with the “drain the swamp” rhetoric of his campaign in the run-up to his election, suggested to some that Trump would not preserve the Bush-Clinton status quo of ever-increasing government spending, revolving occupational doors in Washington and seemingly endless warfare.

However the early appointments into his cabinet suggested business as usual, with several key positions being given to neo-conservative politicians who fit right in among the Karl Rove and Dick Cheneys of yesteryear.

State went to Michael Pompeo, while several neo-cons have cycled through Secretary of Defense and National Security Advisor, each more hawkish than the last. Finally the Vice Presidency was given to Mike Pence, who would take over the presidency if Trump is removed.

How Would a Pence Oval Office Look on the World Stage?

Personal opinion…..I cannot support a theocrat as president of the US…….religion should not be a motivator for government….I think this would be disastrous for the nation.

I may not like Trump much but I like Pence even less….he is a clown in royal robes…..a jester with an agenda.

I Read, I Wrote, You KNow

“Lego ergo scribo”

Closing Thought–15Oct19

Most Americans know that Mike Pence is the VP of the US and he is a super religious zealot……his wife Karen Pence recently made a statement that took me aback…..

Second lady Karen Pence faced fierce backlash on Twitter after she reportedly praised President Donald Trump for how he treats young women.

Pence, who is married to Vice President Mike Pence, on Wednesday told a “Women for Trump” discussion in St. Paul, Minnesota, that she liked Trump’s respect for his daughters and claimed he’d “empowered women like no other,” according to The New York Times’ White House correspondent Katie Rogers.

They reminded her of Trump’s long history of insulting women, his comments boasting of sexual assault on the now-infamous 2005 “Access Hollywood” bus ride, and the raft of sexual misconduct and assault allegations against the president.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karen-pence-donald-trump-women_n_5d9ed188e4b087efdba8232b

Seriously?

Where has this woman been for the last couple of years hiding under her Bible?

All she has to do is visit a bookstore in her spare time and learn about the man she says is “good for women”…..

It’s a big day for upcoming books with explosive sexual allegations. Esquire is out with an excerpt from All the President’s Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator, a book by journalists Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy that pulls from more than 100 interviews to chart a path through Trump’s history with women—beginning as early as childhood. Esquire reports the book makes significant additions to the claims already made against him, as it contains 43 new allegations of alleged inappropriate behavior, among them “26 instances of unwanted sexual contact.” The excerpt itself focuses on “an alleged wave of unwanted touching” that occurred prior to his engagement to Melania. The excerpt opens with the now familiar tale of how he met the 28-year-old model while on a date with another woman.

But the authors dive into two other women, Maureen Gallagher and Kara Young, whom he dated while separated from second wife Marla Maples. Trump’s affection for Young was reportedly a problem for Melania, so much so that she and Trump broke up. “They got back together a few months later, but Trump apparently hadn’t abandoned those old habits,” the authors write before zeroing in on the aforementioned “unwanted touching.” Karen Johnson says she was at a Mar-a-Lago New Year’s Eve party in the early 2000s with her husband. While on her way to the bathroom prior to leaving, she claims Trump was hiding behind a tapestry, grabbed her, and pulled her in. “And he’s strong, and he just kissed me. I was so scared because of who he was … I don’t even know where it came from. I didn’t have a say in the matter.”

She needs to spend more time paying attention and less time sucking up to Trump.

Oh wait…she is not alone as batcrap crazy……our minister of justice is just as tilted…..

Attorney General William Barr on Friday faulted the “ascendancy” of secularism in America for mental illness, violence and drug abuse.

“Virtually every moral pathology has gained ground,” he said in a speech at the University of Notre Dame’s law school.

The speech revealed how deeply the top lawman in the nation is tied to his Catholicism as he lashed a recent New Jersey law requiring LGBTQ curriculum in public schools to support civil rights. He complained that laws are being “used as a battering ram to break down traditional moral values.”

Barr said that secular militants, including “so-called progressives,” are mobilized in an “organized destruction” of religion. He vowed that his Justice Department will fight for the “most cherished of all our American liberties: the freedom to live according to our faith.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/william-barr-secularism-religion-drug-abuse-violence_n_5da151a3e4b02c9da04a8e8d

This man is a toad, a slug that belongs in jail not in charge of the nation’s law enforcement.

Then there is the State Department of Religion’s leader Pompeo……

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo delivered an address last week to the American Association of Christian Counselors World Conference in Nashville, titled “Being a Christian Leader.” As of Monday, the top item on the State Department’s main webpage was a post promoting the address in bold type.

In his speech, Pompeo said he would “use my time today to think about what it means to be a Christian leader, a Christian leader in three areas.” They included disposition, dialogue, and decisions.

“And my focus too, to be quite candid, is not just on being a leader,” he explained. “I learned how to lead at whatever level I’m blessed with during my time at West Point and other experiences, but I want to talk today about being a Christian leader. I learned that through a very different experience, an experience with God and my own personal faith in Christ.”

https://shareblue.com/mike-pompeo-state-department-christian-leader-secretary-of-state/

Unlike the TRump-ites…I know what the Constitution says about religion and I would appreciate my reps to follow the document and leave their personal feelings at the kitchen table.

I Read, I Wrote, You Know

“Lego Ergo Scribo”

One Day BAM To The Moon!

50 years ago this year we went to the Moon and walked around….and after a few more visits the US decided not to spend any more energy and money on visits to the Moon.

And then just days ago……our VP, Mike Pence, said that he wanted the US to return to the Moon in 5 years……

Pence, who serves as chairman of the National Space Council, delivered the remarks during the body’s fifth meeting in Alabama on Tuesday. He said the country is once again in a space race against “adversaries” like Russia and China.

“The first woman and the next man on the moon will both be American astronauts launched by American rockets from American soil,” Pence said at the meeting.

He said that President Donald Trump agrees with the goal. In 2017, Trump issued Space Policy Directive 1, which called on NASA to put American astronauts on the moon for the first time since 1972.

Pence added that the astronauts will walk on the moon’s south pole, which might host reservoirs of ice.

NASA needs new urgency and focus to meet the challenge, Pence said. NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine said the agency will do everything in its power to meet that deadline.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-03-26/pence-tells-nasa-to-put-americans-on-the-moon-in-5-years

Apparently Pence was echoing the words of JFK….but there is a slight problem with the VP’s chest thumping about the Moon…..

The rocket that will be used to go back to the Moon is the problem……

NASA has been toiling away on a monster rocket for the past eight years — but how much action the skyscraper-size Space Launch System will see once it’s completed is now anybody’s guess.

Designed to send humans and almost 60,000 pounds of cargo to the moon and perhaps beyond, the SLS will be bigger and more powerful than any rocket since the Saturn V behemoth that took the Apollo astronauts to the moon 50 years ago. NASA has said the rocket will send Americans back to the lunar surface as early as 2024, with an uncrewed test flight tentatively scheduled for 2020.

But the orange-and-white rocket has fallen three years behind schedule — and is way over budget. Almost $17 billion has been spent so far on the space vehicle, which was projected to cost $10.6 billion when its construction was approved in 2011. Experts say each SLS flight will cost at least $1 billion, or about 11 times more than SpaceX’s Falcon Heavy rocket, which made its debut last year.

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/nasa-s-17-billion-moon-rocket-may-be-doomed-it-ncna991061

Pence is learning the same lesson that “What-his-name” has had to learn……saying does not make it so.

One day these “people” will learn to put brain in gear before driving off at the mouth.

And under the media radar was the expansion of the bureaucracy……and the spending of more taxpayer money…..the Space Development Agency….

The newly established Space Development Agency promises to chart the first steps of a “comprehensive architecture” to address eight critical defense priorities by the end of September, the organization’s director said here Tuesday.

Fred Kennedy, who comes to the fledgling SDA from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, aims to present a fuller picture of what that architecture should look like to Pentagon leadership by the end of the fiscal year. If all goes well, the SDA would develop, buy, and deploy its first assets on orbit, along with ground segments, no later than 2022.

http://airforcemag.com/Features/Pages/2019/April%202019/SDA-Director-Embarks-on-Space-Architecture-Overhaul.aspx

Idle promises can be expensive…..and the taxpayer will shoulder the price.

That Christian Sharia

The world and the country wait on pins and needles about the outcome of the investigations into Trump and his corrupt organization……will he be impeached……would that mean Pence would ascent to the throne of power?

Personally, I would rather see a corrupt ineffective president than him to depart and give the power to a Christian Sharia advocate……Mike Pence….he is a Dominionist……surely you can remember the days when Musims would make the US live under Sharia Law….total BS but there is a chance that a Christian form of Sharia could be looming…..

Say huh?

Those involved in what’s become a major component of the evangelical right in the United States call themselves “dominionists.” They follow “dominion theology.” Pointing to the Bible, they emphasize that in it God gave humans “dominion” over the natural world and life in it. This, they believe, gives them license to exploit the earth. Further, the “dominionists” have expanded this to justify theocratic rule of society.

It is an evangelical segment that Donald Trump has sought to attract. They constitute a significant portion of his so-called “base.”

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/01/30/a-theology-of-power-mike-pence-and-the-dominionists/

Pence is a theocrat……religion is religion and politics is politics and nether the two should be intertwined.

The truth is that Pence is not a person we want in control….

Pence’s timing was even worse than his thesis. He delivered his address an hour after the U.S. Central Command announced the deaths of four U.S. personnel in Syria, an incident for which ISIS claimed responsibility. While the press widely noted the jarring discrepancy between his remarks and the fatal attack, it was silent about the strangeness of the country’s second highest elected official, a person with his own national security staff, blithely going on with such comments after the military had already tweeted to the world about the deadly attack.

Was he not accompanied to the speech venue by a member of his national security staff, or at least an aide capable of surfing the news sites on a cell phone for breaking stories that might affect the prepared remarks? Or was Pence actually informed about the Syria news and mechanically went ahead with the speech anyway? Either way, he doesn’t sound like the leader we need to manage a potential Cuban missile crisis.

Another discordant note: it was not as if Pence were haranguing a group of local notables in a Shriner’s hall in Muscatine, Iowa. In that sort of venue he could probably get away with saying more or less anything. Instead, it was an address to the Global Chiefs of Mission conference at the State Department—a foreign policy-savvy audience at a facility equipped for secure communication with all the nodes of the national command structure. That he thought he could pull the wool over their eyes with cheap talk of victory is one of those ineffable mysteries of faith.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/01/22/pence-unfit-office-trump

For me flush both Trump and Pence down the toilet and give Nancy the chance.

Is Pence On The Chopping Block?

The same block that Sessions was sacrificed on…..is there a spot for Pence on the trash heap of rotting corpses of Trump acolytes?

Why do I ask?

Well next year, 2019, there will be a push for the 2020 elections…..personally I feel that if Trump’s numbers show he cannot win he will bow out for he would not want to bruise his ego by losing to a Democrat.

But let’s say he decides to run in 2020 will he keep Pence as VP?  The NYTimes calls his loyalty into question…..

President Trump’s post-midterm election news conference at the White House last week took a surprising turn when a reporter asked about locking down his 2020 ticket.

“Mike, will you be my running mate?” Mr. Trump asked Vice President Pence, who stood up, raised his hand, and nodded.

“Will you? Thank you. O.K., good,” the president said. “That was unexpected, but I feel very fine.”

If you have been watching the news of the country especially since we elected Trump then you will remember all the graveling his cabinet did especially the VP, Pence……

Mike Pence groveling before Donald Trump is painful to watch.

In 2016, Trump supporter Omarosa Manigault-Newman, who would go on to become a short-lived White House adviser, divulged why Trump gets so much satisfaction from displays of bootlicking. “Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to President Trump,” Manigault-Newman said in an interview with Frontline. “It’s everyone who’s ever doubted Donald, who ever disagreed, who ever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe.”

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/146384/mike-pence-groveling-donald-trump-painful-watch

There is that…..and again let’s say he decides to run but not with Pence on the ticket….who could be next in line to massage the ego of Trump?

Here’s a thought….how about Nikki Haley?

Nikki Haley is on her way out at the United Nations, but she may not be gone from national politics for long.

The former S.C. governor and current U.S. ambassador to the United Nations has been mentioned as a potential running mate for Republican President Donald Trump in the 2020 election, according to sources who spoke with the New York Times.

Haley would replace Vice President Mike Pence on the ticket, sources say, a move that could improve the ticket’s popularity among women voters.

That would be a huge surprise. While Haley is almost certainly not done with politics, she is widely thought to be angling for a high-paying job in the private sector.

(thestate.com)
Personally, if he decides to run in 2020 then I think Haley is a good choice and dump that theocrat in waiting Pence…..
Just something to think about for the coming election….it will be the BIG ONE…LOL

Closing Thought–08Dec17

What’s The Presidency Worth?

Did you know that there was a offer to buy out Trump in 2016 and let Pence have have the presidency?  The price was $800 million.

One of the big political talkers of the day comes courtesy of the Atlantic, which is out with a lengthy piece on the vice president under the provocative headline of “God’s Plan for Mike Pence.” Among the interesting nuggets is that Pence considered what amounts to a “coup” against Donald Trump in the aftermath of the Access Hollywoodtape scandal, writes McKay Coppins. Immediately after the scandal broke, Pence let the Republican National Committee know that he was ready to replace Trump as the GOP nominee, even though it was just four weeks from Election Day. Soon, GOP insiders began buzzing about the possibility of a ticket with Condoleezza Rice as Pence’s vice president, writes Coppins.

At the same time, a group of billionaires started asking around about the possibility of a political buyout of sorts—how much would it take to get Trump to walk away? One source tells Coppins they were given a price of $800 million, though it’s unclear whether an offer was ever made or whether Trump himself was aware of any of this. In any event, the scandal faded and Pence soon found himself as vice-president-elect. Coppins writes that this near-coup was not a matter of “political opportunism” for Pence, a devout Christian who was “genuinely shocked” at Trump’s comments in the recording. It’s been previously reported that Pence considered leaving the ticket at that point, but the Atlantic story makes the case that he went much further than that. Read it in full here.

I love this….American presidency could have price tag…..pay it and rid the country of a worthless lump of manure as president.