Last week the two leaders of the Korean Peninsula met at the DMZ and the world was hopeful……the chance are that their negotiations could bring an end to many decades of animosities toward each other.
Below is the link to the text of the declaration which I offer for people to see that these are great proposals……the problem is it is short on specifics. If this turns out to be a good thing and peace is found it will not be this year or even next…..
The following is an unofficial translation of the full text of a joint declaration signed and issued by South Korean President Moon Jae-in and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un at the end of their bilateral summit held Friday at the Joint Security Area of Panmunjom inside the heavily-fortified Demilitarized Zone that divides the two Koreas.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2018/04/27/0200000000AEN20180427013900315.html
Please do not start handing out the Nobel before there is a reason to award the prize……the situation is promising but not permanent…..keep in mind nothing about this is new……in the past proposals similar to these have been made and never come about…..
Possibly good things could happen but do not bet the house on it…..going “all in” would be a mistake at this point.
In Saner Thought 
It’s a start. The rest remains to be seen, as you rightly say.
Best wishes, Pete.
THere is so much more to this than a dancing Fat Man….chuq
Reblogged this on Citizen Tom and commented:
lobotero offers a sober assessment of The Joint Korean Declaration. Have to agree.
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un heads a totalitarian state. Any dictator has a tiger by the tail. When one rules his people as brutally as that man, to relax his grip on the tail is death, sure and certain death. He knows that. So don’t expect much.
So what is responsible for relations that appear to be thawing? Kim Jong-un’s nuclear testing has become a liability. Look it up.
=> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-korea-nuclear-test-site-mantapsan-mountain-collapse-unusable-kim-jong-un/
=> http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/2143878/north-korea-close-mountain-nuclear-test-site-after-collapse
=> https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/04/27/asia-pacific/experts-skeptical-claim-north-koreas-underground-nuclear-test-site-collapsed/#.Wub-3pdryUk
There are some doubts about the matter, but the mountain under which the North Koreans were testing their nukes seems to have collapsed. If so, then the Chinese are obviously worried about radiation leaks. If we consider Japan, an earthquake, a tidal wave, and leaking nuclear reactors, and we start to get the picture. It is a similar problem.
Because Rocket Man lives in its immediate neighborhood, it would appear China may have decided that Rocket Man’s nukes are probably a greater threat to them than they are to us. So my guess (and that is all it is) is that Rocket Man is looking to get the best deal for something he is going to have to do anyway, get rid of his nukes.
What will be interesting is what Russia learns from this. Will Putin reconsider the calculus of an Iran with nukes? Is an Iran with nukes a greater liability to Russia or to Iran’s sworn enemies? Iran does not border Russia. Iran is not even close to Russia. However, the nations between Iran and Russia will not appreciate it when Iran starts testing its nukes. Will those nations have enough leverage with Putin to cause him to abandon Iran? In the near future? Probably not.
So what about Kim Jong-un? Totalitarian states are extremely ruthless and deadly, and they leave immense wreckage in their wake. Indifferent to suffering, focused solely on the acquisition and retention of power, their leaders see everything and everyone about them as just a thing to be used up and discarded. Therefore, their leaders always leave a legacy of ruin to all who must have anything to do with them. Because he perceives any weakening of his power as a personal threat, any deal with Kim Jong-un has to leave him no other choice except to abide by it or die. Are we prepared to leave Rocket Man no other choice? Are the Chinese prepared to help?
Look at the example of the two most dangerous tyrants of the last century. Why did Stalin and Hitler turn on each other so ferociously? Why was the Eastern Front such a merciless and bloody ordeal? Each tyrant knew too much about the character of the other. Each knew the other had to be destroyed. Once they seized Poland, there was no middle ground between them.
Because all he seeks is power, there is no middle ground between us and Kim Jong-un, but people seek peace, unwilling to pay the cost until men such as Kim Jong-un leave them no other choice.
Thanx for the re-blog Tom…..your input is appreciated…..as far as Iran goes….without the deal they will go back to enrichment and Israel can muster more help to attack them…….thanx again for your help….chuq
How do you know Iran is abiding by the deal?
According to the IAEA they are….only people that do not think so are in DC and neocons that do not want them to have a deal….chuq
There are two problems:
1. Verified how?
The basic issue is whether IAEA has the access to the sites where Iran is suspected of breaking the rules. What
You may be right but hopeful no one hangs on the lies that Israel spreads….chuq
Sorry for got to add….more on Iran later today….chuq
Darn browser is acting up. Anyway since you will do a post on this, i will be brief.
–Do the inspectors have the access they need? There are some military sites the IAEA does not have access to.
–The agreement delays, at best, Iran.
–The Iranians are still developing missiles and supporting terrorists.
–The “treaty” is not a Treaty. The Senate never approved this piece of crap.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43888265
I never said it was a perfect deal……I will support anything that takes nukes off the table…..is it perfect? no and it will never be….but with a treaty then the warmongers no longer have a target…this whole thing is about cash not much else
Well, you may wish to see what is being said about Iran’s lies. Search on => Netanyahu says Iran Nuclear Deal Based on Lies.
Love the way the wolf pack, lockstep news media uses the word “claims” instead of “says”. They don’t particularly like Israel, and they detest Netanyahu. Nevertheless, if he is willing to share his treasure trove, Netanyahu should be able to prove his claim.
Sorry but I do not think BiBi is credible….he has been predicting Irans nukes for 2-5 years…anywhere from 6 months to a couple of years…..he needs Iran…..I will wait to see his proof….chuq
Shrug!
That is a standard reaction and we have many wars to show for it…..chuq
Thinking Netanyahu is credible starts wars. Trump confirmed Netanyahu’s statement.
And where did he get his info? BiBi? Or maybe the group he thinks is out to get him, CIA? chuq
Most of the people in our government just want to do their jobs. The deep state actually does not go that deep.
Democrats have obstructed the efforts of Trump to replace appointees. That is one problem. Trump is also just like anyone else. Since he actually is an outsider, he has to have time to figure out who he can trust. Since he has been in DC awhile now, he has to some degree gotten past these problems.
He has left many positions unfilled…..no one can do the job properly without people in plce
Agreed, but the Constitution requires the Senate to approve his picks. So Trump has to find people willing to stomach the approval process.
1. Being dragged through the mud by the Democrats (politicians and news media).
2. Deliberate stalling by Senate Democrats.
Trump is appointing enough people, but at the current rate the Senate is approving them it will take nine years.
You have to nominate before there can be confirmation. Dems are doing nothing that Repubs have not done….don’t like it but understand it
Personnel is policy. We have reached the point where neither side has much respect for the other. No trust.
If we had the rule of law, and each side honored the law as written, there would not be such a lack of trust. However, before there can be trust, there has to be honor. The people must have a shared code of ethics they honor and the people must hold their leaders accountable to that code. Because of the decline of Christianity and respect for the rule of law, we no longer hold our leaders accountable. We just point fingers of blame.
Ethics is gone…rule of law is there just some do not want to apply it to themselves…..it is always the other guy that is destroying the country when it is us all….chuq