Will He Go Or Will He Stay?

The big question that the media is trying to fixate on as we get closer to the day of the voting for president……will Trump leave office if he loses the election?  They pose the same question day after day and hope for a different answer……I believe Einstein had a thought on that type of thinking.

He keeps trying to set the stage for some sort of challenge to the vote when he loses…..of course he will employ an old reliable tactic of the GOP….accusations of voter fraud…..and the best target right now is mail-in voting……

President Trump on Wednesday declined to commit to a peaceful transfer of power should he lose the election in November. “Well, we’re going to have to see what happens,” Trump said when asked directly about the issue during a press conference, USA Today reports. “You know that I’ve been complaining very strongly about the [mail-in] ballots [sent automatically to voters in some states] and the ballots are a disaster. Get rid of the ballots and you’ll have a very a peaceful—there won’t be a transfer, frankly, there’ll be a continuation. The ballots are out of control. You know it, and you know who knows it better than anyone else? The Democrats know it better than anyone else.” Hours earlier, he had predicted the election results would end up before the Supreme Court, and noted in such a case it would be “important” to have all nine justices.

Democrats were speaking out strongly against the statement, the Washington Post reports. At least one Republican appeared to be speaking out as well, per the Hill: Mitt Romney, though he didn’t mention Trump by name, tweeted, “Fundamental to democracy is the peaceful transition of power; without that, there is Belarus. Any suggestion that a president might not respect this Constitutional guarantee is both unthinkable and unacceptable.” A sample of the Twitter responses to Romney’s remarks: “You want to hand him another judge but you know his plot is to pick one that will help him steal the election.” There are quite a few more where that came from. Joe Biden’s take? “What country are we in? I’m being facetious. Look, he says the most irrational things. I don’t know what to say.” The AP notes this is at least the second time Trump has made such a remark during this election cycle.

Could the rush for a new justice have anything to do with setting up the challenge?

Beyond that can Trump refuse to leave office when he loses?

Donald Trump is now openly threatening to pass an executive order that would prevent Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden from being elected.
During a campaign rally in Fayetteville, North Carolina on Saturday, Trump told a cheering crowd of supporters that “You can’t have this guy as your president. […] Maybe I’ll sign an executive order, you cannot have him as your president.” While he didn’t delve into the details of the executive order that would hypothetically bar Biden from holding office, Trump did continue to berate his opponent for the crowd, questioning how Biden became his party’s nominee and accusing him of being against a coronavirus vaccine. But there is some good news: Trump also told the crowd, “If I lose to him, I don’t know what I’m going to do. I will never speak to you again. You’ll never see me again.”
All this drama…is it a real chance of a challenge or is it just Trump being the dick he is always?
More to think about……
President Trump set off a political ruckus Wednesday when he declined to commit to a peaceful transfer of power after the results of the election are in. “We’re going to have to see what happens,” said the president, who again questioned the accuracy of mass voting by mail. Now the Atlantic is out with a story asserting that the White House is “laying the groundwork” for ways in which he could refuse to concede. Coverage:
  • One tactic: The Atlantic story by Barton Gelman, based on GOP sources, says the Trump campaign “is discussing contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground states where Republicans hold the legislative majority.” The idea is to claim fraud, then have state lawmakers “set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a slate of electors directly.”
  • Elaborating: Here’s how a legal adviser to the Trump campaign puts it in the Atlantic: “The state legislatures will say, ‘All right, we’ve been given this constitutional power. We don’t think the results of our own state are accurate, so here’s our slate of electors that we think properly reflect the results of our state.'”
  • Trump’s full comments: Watch the question and answer via C-SPAN. You can watch Joe Biden’s reaction here, in which he asks, “What country are we in?”
  • From the right: At RedState, Joe Cunningham writes that it’s ridiculous to think that Trump might seriously try to stay in office should he lose, calling it a dumb question that should never have been asked. So why the provocative answer? Trump is again trolling the media and Democrats, asserts Cunningham. He wants them to “freak out over something stupid because it’s the perfect way to get them to stop talking about things he doesn’t want them talking about (like 200,000 COVID-19 deaths, economic numbers, polls, etc.). It’s a distraction game, and they fall for it every single time.”
  • Taking it seriously: Lots of commenters were taking Trump’s words seriously, including Stephen Collinson at CNN, who writes that they “posed a grave threat to the democratic continuum that has underpinned nearly 250 years of republican government.” Collinson also thinks Trump “poured gasoline on an an already inflamed” situation by sending a signal to his supporters on how to react to losing results.
  • Skeptical: At the Week, David Faris doesn’t think the plan laid out in the Atlantic would work. “The first and most obvious is that state legislatures play no clear post-election role in certifying slates of electors from the states.”
  • GOP reaction: Axios rounds up reaction from prominent Republicans, most of whom don’t mention Trump by name but insist that a peaceful transfer of power will, in fact, take place. Mitch McConnell: “There will be an orderly transition just as there has been every four years since 1792.” Rep. Liz Cheney tweeted: “The peaceful transfer of power is enshrined in our Constitution and fundamental to the survival of our Republic. America’s leaders swear an oath to the Constitution. We will uphold that oath.”
Could this be a coup d’etat?
The United States presidential campaign is being transformed into a coup d’état by Donald Trump, who has declared that he will not accept the results of any vote that goes against him.
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8 thoughts on “Will He Go Or Will He Stay?

  1. He seems to be testing the water, trying to evaluate whether or not his supporters would stand by him if he lost, and hung on to office. I would have thought he would be more confident of an outright win, with Biden already in the process of making speeches as if he has lost before the election even happens.
    Best wishes, Pete.

    1. All this game is getting me weary…..Dems are not sounding like they have it in the bag……they are looking for excuses in case they do lose. chuq

      1. I wish Dems would stop playing so nicely and act like moderates instead of the political left. We’re already a center-right country; swing the freaking Overton Window left-ward at least a little before we go off the deep end into an authoritarian paranoiac’s paradise, please! Repubs in DC have become all about winning and screw fairness, and the Dems just wish for better and let stuff happen, which pushes us further right as a whole. They need to stand up and say “no more b.s.” and fight back. I used to think Bill Maher was rather harsh at times about how he felt about the Dems not fighting back. Now I totally get the frustration he’s been letting out the past decade.

        It’s like they think the “when they go low, we go high” thing is about not fighting at all. No, I think it’s about how you need to fight the fights that need fighting (just don’t be an a-hole about it). Dems don’t have to turn into the Dump version of the left, but they gotta confront what’s there. Not just say “look what Dump’s doing! It’s awful!”; they’re supposed to DO SOMETHING about that. Of course, the presidency has only gotten more powerful the past few decades, and it feels like learned helplessness is coming into play. Snap the hell out of it, Dems, or you won’t have a country, let alone a party anymore!

        I love what Beau of the Fifth Column said in a vid a few months ago, that we need a president who is gonna give much of that power back to the legislature that’s been gradually added over the past few decades, by both parties. We need a leader not addicted to power who will right the scales, because we’re in danger of having an “elected king” (if we don’t already… ugh, nauseating).

        As far as coverage of the “will he, won’t he” thing, I think it’s a distraction from the COVID death toll for the most part. I’m sure there are plans somewhere in case he DID decide to just stick around and not get out of the chair on inauguration day. Might take a bunch of Secret Service guys, but I’m sure a few grabbing arms and legs can carry him out the door (or grab the armrests of his chair and wheel him out) and throw him on the stoop. Saying the words is a polite formality and not like an oral contract, right? He’ll just prove himself a sore loser like usual if he doesn’t.

      2. I disagree there is nothing about the Dems that I would call Leftist….they are all, including those of the Squad, center Left…there is nothing progressive about any of them. chuq

      3. yeah, they’re supposed to be the “left” party, but are too centrist. Wasn’t it Carlin that said something like great, one more option than the soviet union?

      4. getting rid of the electoral college would help, that 270 rule ensures a two-party system that does the bare minimum to stay in existence. Get rid of that rule, let more parties come in, and suddenly these complacent jerks would have to get in gear and listen or lose their jobs from a lack of majority votes… hopefully.

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