Closing Thought–24Feb17

Word of the Day–Abortions!

This is a subject that I seldom write about because it is a person’s private decision and NO one belongs in the loop other than the person having to make it….certainly NOT the government.

Another reason is that I am male and as such will not have to make this decision….that is about to come to an end…..the writing part that is…..

In Oklahoma, abortion rights advocates breathed a big sigh of relief when a particularly draconian measure, requiring a woman seeking an abortion to get written approval from the man who impregnated her, was tabled last week. That sigh may have come too soon: The state’s House Public Health Committee is set to reconsider HB 1441 today. The proposal would require a woman to get written permission for an abortion from the biological father, identify him to her doctor in writing, and allow him to demand a paternity test.

This measure is the latest in a series of efforts to limit access to abortion in Oklahoma. Gov. Mary Fallin, a Republican, has signed 20 anti-abortion bills over the course of her six-year tenure, including measures that tripled the waiting period from 24 to 72 hours and banned the use of telemedicine to administer medication abortion. Initially, state Rep. Justin Humphrey called his proposal an effort to make sure fathers support their child from conception, but as the Intercept reports, the lawmaker clarified his position when he said:

I believe one of the breakdowns in our society is that we have excluded the man out of all of these types of decisions. I understand that [women] feel like that is their body. I feel like it is a separate—what I call them is, is you’re a “host.” And you know when you enter into a relationship you’re going to be that host and so, you know, if you pre-know that then take all precautions and don’t get pregnant.

Source: This Bill Would Require Abortions to Be Approved by Men | Mother Jones

I have been writing for 40+ years and this whole thing is some of the most moronic bullshit I have ever heard.

I am sure that there will be some that will try to defend this issue….but unless they are female then they need to keep it to themselves.

19 thoughts on “Closing Thought–24Feb17

  1. Ditto–thanks for writing and linking. How the hell has the backslide to the dark ages been allowed to happen so blithely with a smile and a wave? Sheesh–this is proof that a woman’s life means nothing to these people, and a fetus is everything. Who cares about the mother, the incubator? Ooh, I don’t have enough swear words to indicate what I’m feeling right now–just imagine ’em. Oh, and by the way legislature, what about in cases of rape? you really think you’re gonna get the “sperm donor” to consent and implicate himself? Oh, and what about all these guys who leave these women to raise kids alone and shack up with another? Never mind, some of these people think if you’re raped you can’t get pregnant from it, and the women should’ve made their men happy so they wouldn’t leave.–Friggin idiots!

  2. Because I am a man and therefore do not face the prospect of an unwanted pregnancy, for any reason, I have always championed legal abortion as the right of the woman to decide. These backward-thinking moves serve only to return society to the days of backstreet abortionists, abandoned babies, and women dying from potential complications of unsupervised births.
    Anti-abortionists are more active in your country than they are here, but all seem to be driven by some nasty aspect of religious fundamentalism that should be viewed with alarm.
    Best wishes, Pete.

  3. As a woman, I thank you for this post. The idea that I can be seen as the unwilling “host” is outrageous enough, but what really riles me are the people who want to limit my reproductive choices because abortion is traumatic for the woman or because they believe they speak for God. Yes, it can be traumatic, and yes, God might be unhappy with me, but I claim the right to accept the consequences of my own actions as an adult. I don’t need anyone to run interference for me, to protect me either from grief or from divine retribution, thank you very much.

    1. You are most welcome and I appreciate your visit and your comment.

      As I said I am a male and my opinion means nothing for I will never have to make that decision and I certainly do not want the government involved in any one person’s decisions…..

      Please stop by again I appreciate your visit….chuq

  4. First, having long agreed with your views on abortion, and reproductive rights for women, I applaud your willingness to share those views. Only men who are, at their core, deathly afraid of both women, and their own sexuality, can possibly think anything else. But, then what can be expected of a fundamentalist idiot? In fact, I would characterize this sort of thinking as that recent meme, so fitting for so many in today’s world, as being a “special kind of stupid.”

    That ‘specialness’ can be described as ‘deliberate, willful ignorance, the sort I am always tempted to correct personally, on the spot, each time a i am confronted with it. So far, I’ve managed to avoid any jail time, but, I am quite serious about my bone-deep loathing of such wastes of sperm, and am not entirely certain I won’t ever give in to that urge, or the one I encounter frequently, i.e. the urge to go hunting…. pimps and misogynists of all types, especially those I see abusing women, in any way.

    Used to be, back in cave days, if a male assaulted a women in the presence of other males, he would be instantly killed, as a hazard to the whole tribe…. Perhaps we should consider re-instituting such laws, allowing us Men to kill the assholes when needed; it might just make some men think, rather than becoming assholes & idiots, as most are today…

    Indeed, these ‘representatives’, who sponsor such insanity, would be a good place to start….

    gigoid, the dubious

    1. In the second sentence, add the word ‘not’, between are and, at, to make “Only men who are NOT, at their core, afraid… can possibly think anything else…”

      Oops… makes sense now….


      1. “Busybodyism”…. a human trait, common among those suffering from lifelong ignorance…

        New Op Code


        I made it up, but, hey, works for me!..

      2. You and H.L. Mencken take hands there; he said, “In this world of sin and sorrow, there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.”

        Me, I’m particularly glad I gave up on both of them… 😉


      3. Mill’s quote…’not saying conservatives are stupid but every stupid person I know is a conservative”….I like his thinking…LOl chuq

      4. LOL! Good one….

        Now, if we can get more liberals to think, we might have something to work with…. For me, the most telling word of those used to describe those who engage in such matters (i.e. ‘conservative politician’ and/or ‘liberal politician’) is the word ‘politician’. They both serve mostly only their own self-interest; liberals are just less cruel about it….which means little, as the results are the same…


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