VP Debate Low-Lights

If you watched the Veep debate then you will not need this synopsis….but if you we like me and decided that anything other than the debate was important then this will help you understand the night.

Moderator Elaine Quijano did her best to keep the candidates in check at Tuesday’s vice presidential debate at Longwood University in Farmville, Va., and it was a night of plenty of interruptions, aggressive challenges, and spirited defenses as Indiana Gov. Mike Pence and Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine finally met head to head, the AP reports. Some of the night’s highlights:

  • Both candidates came out of the gate ready to rumble, with each one playing the role of defender for their respective running mates. The AP notes that the “usually easygoing” Kaine went after Pence right from the get-go, to which the “unflappable” Pence did a lot of head-shaking, laughing, and lobbing accusations of a Kaine-Clinton “insult-driven campaign.”
  • Kaine did get in zingers (or what Pence at one point called an extension of the Democratic campaign’s “avalanche of insults), including saying that Donald Trump “loves dictators”—”He’s got like a personal Mount Rushmore: Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un, Moammar Gadhafi, and Saddam Hussein”—and claiming that Clinton would be a “you’re hired” president, while Trump would be a “you’re fired” president, tapping into Trump’s oft-used line from The Apprentice. Pence dismissed Kaine’s lobs as “pre-done” lines, per ABC News.
  • Trump’s tax returns were broached, with Pence noting his running mate had faced some “pretty tough times” in the mid-’90s (including apparently taking a $1B loss in 1995), but that he worked the tax code “brilliantly” to his advantage. Kaine, however, said Trump should release his tax returns, audit or no audit, noting the GOP nominee should at least meet the “Nixon standard,” per CNN. (Nixon tried to keep his tax records from the public for similar auditing reasons in 1973.)
  • Russian President Vladimir Putin also entered the conversation, with Kaine accusing Trump of calling Putin a better leader than President Obama, and Pence deflecting those accusations. “Putin’s run his economy into the ground, he persecutes LGBT folks and journalists,” Kaine said, per the Los Angeles Times. “If you don’t know the difference between dictatorship and leadership, then you have got to go back to a fifth-grade civics class.”

But if you do not want someone’s opinion then watch the thing for yourself…….

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After a week of terrible news for the Trump campaign there is now a little something for them to celebrate…..the consensus is that Pence won the debate……..

Like him or loathe him, choosing apprentices appears to be one thing Donald Trump definitely excels at. Numerous pundits are calling Trump running mate Mike Pence the winner of Tuesday night’s vice presidential debate, thanks in part to his calm demeanor in response to an aggressive, interrupting Tim Kaine, though Pence failed to land any knockout blows on his rival. According to a CNN poll, 48% of debate watchers consider Pence the winner, compared to 42% for the Democrat. A round-up of opinions:

  • Chris Cillizza at the Washington Post declares the “cool, calm, collected” Pence the winner over Kaine, who was “trying to load so many Trump attacks into every answer that it made it virtually impossible to grasp any one attack.” But Pence probably made a better case for Pence 2020 than he did for Trump 2016, Cillizza writes—and overall, the debate was like “watching two kids throw mashed potatoes at each other,” only less entertaining.
  • At RedState, Caleb Howe sees Pence as the clear winner and Kaine—who “tried to be an attack dog but came off more like a yipping pup nipping at the mailman’s heels”—as the clear loser. But another loser, he writes, is Trump, partly because “Pence winning only shows how truly terrible Trump was during his debate.”
  • Dan Roberts at the Guardian also says it was a bad night for Kaine. When “he should have calmly shredded the inconsistencies between Trump and the rest of planet Republican, he came across as the nervous and jittery one,” Roberts writes, calling it a missed opportunity because “so much of what the vice-presidential nominee had to say in defense of his boss did not pass the smell test.”
  • Pence succeeded in giving the Trump campaign a calm face after more than a week of turmoil, writes Errol Louis at CNN, who credits the Indiana governor’s years as a radio talk show host for the smooth performance. Pence, he writes, has “demonstrated to other Trump supporters how to defend their candidate without doubling down on his abrasive style.”
  • The big loser here was the truth, according to Politico, which notes that the facts “started taking a beating” when Pence called Longwood University “Norwood University,” and takes a look at inaccurate statements from both candidates on issues including foreign policy, taxes, and immigration.

I say good news because the Trump supporters do not have to make crap up to put a positive spin on their worthless candidate….Pence saved the day.  (the peasants may now commence to dance)

On a side note:  Pence just made the case for him to be the presumptive leader of the GOP in 4 or 8 years….maybe that was the plan all along….thoughts?

11 thoughts on “VP Debate Low-Lights

  1. Reblogged this on It Is What It Is and commented:
    I watched the debate last night … it was painful, so say the least!!
    “Pence just made the case for him to be the presumptive leader of the GOP in 4 or 8 years….maybe that was the plan all along …. “

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