Carry A Big Stick Or Be Quiet

I have been writing for years about the disconnect between the public and the military.  It is so bad that war and troops deaths is nothing more than a fluff piece in the evening news.

The public turns a blind eye to all the conflicts we are fighting these days because there is NO shared experience… effects less than 5% of the population.

Although I am antiwar ….I have come down on the side of returning to the days of conscription (that is the draft for you Trump supporters)……

Source: Would a Return to Conscription Substantially Reduce the Probability of War? – In Saner Thought

Source: Time To Re-Think Conscription? | Ace News Room

Source: Time For Americans To F*cking Stand Up!! – In Saner Thought

As the wars drag on more and more people are starting to see the need to return to the days of conscription…..

Each year as they testify before congress, America’s armed service chiefs roll out pleas for the latest technology ‘essential’ to confront a predictable cast of global boogeymen. A pessimist could accuse them of using such testimony to scare congress and the public into supporting their slice of annual defense budgets. A pessimist could justify his position by pointing out the testimony’s conspicuous omission of conscription, essential to victory against any one or combination of Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran. While the technology of warships, aircraft and combat vehicles trotted out during testimony season is impressive, it can only give America an edge. Nations win wars on an irresistible wave of resources. America must therefore either include conscription into any discourse about confronting Russia, China, North Korea or Iran, or stop talking about confronting them.

America’s approach to warfare has changed for the worse. Current conflicts indicate a disturbing satisfaction with stalemate as a substitute for victory. America’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan offer abject lessons about a national strategy unready to win a global war, much less isolated regional engagements. The stalemate in both conflicts betrays America’s inability to translate success and sacrifice at the tactical and operational level into anything close to strategic victory. America’s powerlessness to generate the political will for victory emboldens adversaries and exposes significant strategic vulnerabilities.

Source: Carry a Big Stick or Be Quiet: A Case for Conscription | Small Wars Journal

If we must fight these damn silly wars then we need to make the sacrifice of our troops and their families a shared experience….I am NOT a warmonger!  Something has to give….we are asking too much of the pool of soldiers we now have…….

That means a return to the DRAFT!


20 thoughts on “Carry A Big Stick Or Be Quiet

      1. That goes unaddressed and overshadowed by the constant BS that is spilling from the white house, distracting the nation from most other vital issues. Piling on the military and staffing it with fresh blood is not the answer.

      2. Again I agree but this could be the event that gets the public to pay more attention with what is being done in their name…..if they are the possibility of having to actually fight and possibly die then their attitudes would change and that is all I am asking for ….chuq

      3. Look back on VN…I understand you have personal experience. It fed our government new “meat” to sacrifice in a bloody civil war. Perhaps one of the most horrific ever. NO, I can’t go for that Chuq.

      4. Yes I do and it is what lead me to my antiwar activism…..I am still antiwar…..this suggestion would force Americans to look at the obscenity of war in a more realistic manner….right now they are fine with others do their fighting for them….believe me I make these assertions with no joy but something must be done or a handful of people will do all our fighting and dying….Americans care NOTHING about the plight of our soldiers…that needs to change. chuq

      5. Requiring our young men and women who have done nothing to set the stage for this warmongering is unfair. Let them lead their lives, for those who want to sign up, they are probably influenced by their parent Hawks and we cannot save them. I have a son….I don’t like your solution….I don’t think it is a solution but a feeding of the monster.

      6. I do not like it either….and I understand you point…..but I see everyday how much Americans pretend to care and do nothing to help the situation….let someone else do it attitude…..

      7. We need to get to the source. All wars and interference in other’s wars should go before the congress (unfortunately we can’t trust the congress anymore) but the president has too much power and should not be allowed to declare war or interfere in foreign wars without due process. I think that we are probably through playing big brother and have lost credibility as a world leader. Perhaps we soon have the wall and live isolated from the world, things is the enemy is already among us.

      8. If we had a president that understood diplomacy then I would probably have a different attitude but we have not had one of those for decades…I have written about the new AUMF…..a vote for the use of force but it is really open ended and looks a lot like what we are doing today…..very few of our reps have experienced war so they shrug it off and turn it into a political game….so very sad….chuq

  1. I agree. The draft, with all its flaws (Trump, Clinton, Limbaugh, Romney and many others avoided service through deferments that sometimes were a bit suspicious…) brought all levels of society into contact with each other, and helped contribute to the furor over Vietnam and the senselessness of that war.

    Having a professional military isolates the greater population from the realities of war, among which are the abuse of Presidential powers and the connection of all Americans to the needless deaths of the young people we send to fight in undeclared wars.

    I’d expand the draft to include all people of a certain age except those with disabilities or medical conditions so severe they were unable to do some sort of service for their country. Service could be military for the most physically capable, alternative service in veteran’s clinics and hospitals or other public health services on reservations for people like Quakers, or, for that matter, service in national parks, forests, and monuments.

    There are any number of places people could be used effectively, with respect to their moral “druthers”, yet give them a shot at giving back to their country for the benefits citizenship affords them. Yes, bring back the draft, but improve it to include all men and women between 18 and 26.

    Two or three years in service to your country is a useful way to deal with that awkward period in life where many people have no sense of what they value or want to do with the rest of their lives besides use their smart phones and nuture their precious sense of entitlement because they know they are so special! (I know how it is, having been that age once, though our phones then had rotary dials at worst, but almost all were attached to walls.)

  2. I agree that we need a return to the draft and we need to see that every able bodied individual has a certain amount of military obligation they are required to complete … at one time it was a total of 8 years … 2 years active and the rest on reserve …. and I believe that the wealthy should not be able to use college deferments as a way to dodge the draft and the way to do that is to make sure they get their education right along with and in connection to their active duty service … go to school while in uniform …no more unfair draft dodges for the high-placed and the privileged. See “Universal Military Training Act of 1955” for a good model.

  3. I can see that compulsory service would lead to a wider outcry for the end to these conflicts. However, I fear that the influential and upper-class families would somehow manage to avoid their sons and daughters being drafted, so the burden of combat would fall on those from poorer or underprivileged backgrounds.
    Rich people have a way of avoiding unpleasantness.
    Best wishes, Pete.

  4. I’ve wondered what it’d be like if we went for not just a draft, but maybe a mandatory 2 year stint after high school graduation (or 18, whichever comes later). I can’t help but remember the youngsters on the news around 9/11 that were like “we gotta go fight and take them out” and when the anchor asked them if they were going to join up, they suddenly backpedaled REAL fast. I always remember that when I hear some person going on and on about troops on the ground. And then you look at the congress–how many of their kids are in the military? When the Iraq War was launched, only 1 out of all of them apparently had a kid in the service. I bet the others weren’t thinking twice about keeping their kids home or shipping them off to college ASAP, but they didn’t have a problem sending other people’s kids.

    I’ve felt for years that we don’t really seem to care about the troops unless we know them personally. It sounds heartless, but like you say, nobody bats an eye at the number of wars we’re fighting and that someone else died. It’s a sad state. You really wanna “support the troops”? Then send ’em only when needed and keep informed of what we’re asking them to do. It’s not freaking fair to them and their families at all.

    1. You are echoing what I have been saying……fake patriotism is all around or as Paine called them……”Sunshine Patriots”….those that shrink from service to their country…….chuq

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