“Time To Negotiate”

After months of chest thumping on the war in Ukraine the press has seen the conflict winding down and now they change their tune to call for negotiations to begin…..

NY Times has issued their thoughts…..

A week ago we noted that a May 11 New York Times news article, documented that all was not going well for the US in Ukraine and that a companion opinion piece hinted that a shift in direction might be in order.

Now on May 19, “THE EDITORIAL BOARD,” the full Magisterium of the Times, has moved from hints to a clarion call for a change in direction in an editorial uninformatively titled, “The War Is Getting Complicated, and America Isn’t Ready.” From atop the Opinion page the Editorial board has declared that “total victory” over Russia is not possible and that Ukraine will have to negotiate a peace in a way that reflects a “realistic assessment” and the “limits” of US commitment. The Times serves as one the main shapers of public opinion for the Elite and so its pronouncements are not to be overlooked lightly.

Ukrainians will have to adjust to US “limits” and make sacrifices for newfound US realism

The Times May editorial dictum contain the following key passages:

In March, this board argued that the message from the United States and its allies to Ukrainians and Russians alike must be: No matter how long it takes, Ukraine will be free. …”

“That goal cannot shift, but in the end, it is still not in America’s best interest to plunge into an all-out war with Russia, even if a negotiated peace may require Ukraine to make some hard decisions (emphasis, jw).”

To ensure that there is no ambiguity, the editorial declares that:

“A decisive military victory for Ukraine over Russia, in which Ukraine regains all the territory Russia has seized since 2014, is not a realistic goal. … Russia remains too strong…”

To make cerain that President Biden and the Ukrainians understand what they should do, the EDITORIAL BOARD goes on to say:

New York Times Repudiates Drive for ‘Decisive Military Victory’ in Ukraine, Calls for Peace Negotiations

Writers like myself have been calling for this for months now and we were ignored….maybe now with ahe early war cheer leaders will fall into line. major news source tiring of the reports on the war will find more receptive audience.

But I ask ‘why now’?  I mean why after half of country has been destroyed is it important now?

I am waiting to see how many of the early war mongers will fall into line with the prospect of talks.

But MSM should not worry…they always have Taiwan.

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21 thoughts on ““Time To Negotiate”

  1. You asked, “Why is it important now that half the country has been destroyed?” I guess it is important now to keep the OTHER half of the country from being destroyed and us along with it. As a anti war person, this should be good news to you. I know it is for me because now I feel like there is a ray of hope for America to have a future.

    1. Nope…he has the soul of the Ukrainian people wrapped around his finger and he will get whatever he wants out of them. chuq

  2. How does an anti-war fight against war? With pacifism?

    The war mongers are the people who seek to profit by creating and instigating conflict. Fighting in self-defense and helping others fight in self-defense is perfectly appropriate.

    When is the best time to negotiate? When the other side is ready to give up its desire for conquest, free its prisoners, and slink back to its own territory with its tail between its legs.

    Peace negotiations work only when BOTH SIDES want peace. Don’t forget that the Russians started this conflict unprovoked. When the Russians have made a joke of peace negotiations so long as they

    1. I disagree that it was unprovoked….only when you buy into the PR the media feeds you…..Read my other stuff and see where this could have been avoided…..but none of the US Senators and such wanted it to be resolved….excuse for no antiwar movement is typical……be well chuq

      1. Minsk II Agreement…..including the Azov battalion in Ukrainian military….now looking with analytic eyes there can be justification….in the eyes of Putin. chuq

      2. The Minsk ii Agreement has never been implemented because it never should have been written. Russia isn’t even mentioned in it.

        What has the Azov battalion done besides defending Ukraine and being called names?

      3. They are a neo-Nazi pack of thugs…..and now they are part of the Ukrainian military…..

        I was written and it was on the books…it could have been a stepping stone but none wanted it…..it was signed by Russia and Ukraine…..Swiss negotiators and separatists leader….so the chance was there and none took it. chuq

      4. It is called a peace agreement so it must be one. The news media calls the Azov battalion neo-Nazi thugs so the Azov battalion must be neo-Nazi thugs.

      5. Nope they are neo Nazis because they are neo-Nazis….their standard is neo-Nazi…there leader is a neo-Nazi…..chuq

      6. 25 years ago you would have been right. Denying their leanings are what makes the situation worse. You still did not give your opinion on ‘why now’. chuq

      7. Actually, I did.

        When is the best time to negotiate? When the other side is ready to give up its desire for conquest, free its prisoners, and slink back to its own territory with its tail between its legs.

        Putin ordered an invasion of Ukraine. The Minsk II Agreement is a joke that occurred after Putin began trying to intimate and conquer Ukraine. You have called the Azov battalion a vicious name, and you have yet to justify why. Looks like you are blaming the victim. Is the sort of peace you want what Neville Chamberlain got?

      8. Oh goody the tired old Neville thing. The best time to negotiate is when the chance of war is diminished…..I hate my tax dollars are being liberally thrown at Ukraine….this country needs it here. There are many organizations that have looked into Azov,,,the Daily Telegraph, Bellingcat, Daily Beast, even the conservative Bulwark did a piece……I am sorry that you think it is vicious….but a leopard cannot change its spots. chuq

      9. We say a leopard is a leopard because it has the features of a leopard and conducts itself as a leopard, not because some journalists has a hatred of house cats and wants everyone else to fear them.

  3. The ‘why now’? is after the billions have been spent and the rebuilding contracts are being written. There had to be all the destruction first, otherwise the profits would have been smaller.
    Best wishes, Pete.

      1. More or less. The rebuilding was financed by outside investors who made billions and the German companies became giants like VAG and Siemens. In Japan we got Nissan and Sony.

      2. So the Ukraine thing is just another example of American “Here-We-Go-Again-Ism” … is that about correct?

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