Patriot Or Traitor?

I have been reading blogs….listening to news reports…..and reading lots of news…..all in an attempt to get an handle on this Snowden dude…..

We all have our opinions about this Snowden dude….the guy who worked for NSA for 2 weeks and took abounch of info that he has released through a journalist enabler……I have heard him called a patriot because he exposed the NSA and their dastardly techniques of checking for terrorists…..and then there is those that think him some sort of traitor for his antics……but that is for the individual to decide which Snowden is….the patriot or the traitor.

There are a few things to consider….one Ellsberg released the Pentagon papers and stood up for what he believed…Snowden ran away to hide and then released his so-called information.  Manning, you know the Army PFC that got and then released a bunch of Pentagon stuff on line….he stood and faced the consequences….Snowden ran to China another bastion of democracy and freedom (sarcasm, in case it was missed)…….

Then there is the report that Snowden had 4 laptops with information and he allowed either China or Russia to check out the hard drives……that is right….RUSSIA…..(another bastion of freedom and democracy…sarcasm once again……..).  That does not sound like someone that has the concern of American’s public best interests…..does it to you?

The story says that Snowden has gone from China to Russia then on to Cuba and finally to Ecuador……his final destination because of the extradition that is non-existent……any time a person allows state secrets fall into the hands of foreign entities then that person is a traitor!  No matter how one tries to justify the actions….a traitor is a traitor!

Sorry….none of that sounds like a patriot…..but it does sound like a traitor on the run looking for a safe haven!

No amount of justification can turn this act into something patriotic.

If Manning is a traitor….then Snowden is worse….why?  He was a coward and fled…..he could not be bothered with standing on principle….my guess is that he, Snowden, is looking for the most lucrative spot to settle down……

Let us hear from the public….is this guy a….patriot or traitor?

When Can NSA Do This Or That?

We have had weeks of outrage about the NSA and their tactic of getting info from various providers…..but how many know what they can or cannot do?

Thanx to the WEEK for this explanation…….

The NSA has to immediately destroy your information if:

♦ The NSA analyst determines that you are a “U.S. person” — a category that covers U.S. citizens, legal residents, corporations, and nonprofits — based on a “totality of the circumstances.” The analyst can determine if you’re in the U.S. via IP address, matching your phone number or email address to a database, statements you’ve made, or other kinds of research.

The Guardian reprints part of the NSA general counsel’s briefing to analysts in 2008:

Once again, the standard here is a reasonable belief that your target is outside the United States. What does that mean when you get information that might lead you to believe the contrary? It means you can’t ignore it. You can’t turn a blind eye to somebody saying: “Hey, I think so and so is in the United States.” You can’t ignore that. [The Guardian]

The NSA can retain your information for up to five years if:

♦ The analyst can’t determine where you are. “In the absence of specific information regarding whether a target is a United States person,” the document says, “a person reasonably believed to be located outside the United States or whose location is not known will be presumed to be a non-United States person unless such person can be positively identified as a United States person.” Once it’s determined you are, in fact, a U.S. person, the fun stops.

♦ Your data is “enciphered or reasonably believed to contain secret meaning.” That’s a real problem for people “using online anonymity services such as Tor or sending encrypted email and instant messages,” says Dan Goodin at Ars Technica. And that’s especially sketchy because “Tor is a staple of many human rights advocates who want to prevent repressive governments from tracking their location or intercepting and reading their email and instant messages. Encrypted email, while by no means easy to use, remains a core practice among lawyers, corporate executives, and privacy advocates.”

♦ Your information contains “significant foreign intelligence information”, “evidence of a crime,” or “information pertaining to a threat of serious harm to life or property.” Retaining this information requires approval of the NSA director. “If there’s a terrorist attack planned or a threat of a cyberattack, I think Americans want us to pay attention to it,” an unidentified senior U.S. intelligence official tells The New York Times.

♦ You’re a lawyer or client whose communication contains useful foreign intelligence. This is an exception to the general rule that all communications between an attorney and U.S. client facing criminal charges be destroyed, and there are special rules for handling the information: “The relevant portion of the communication containing that conversation will be segregated and the National Security Division of the Department of Justice will be notified so that appropriate procedures may be established to protect such communications from review or use in any criminal prosecution, while preserving foreign intelligence information contained therein.”

The NSA can collect and use your information if:

♦ You are a foreigner outside U.S. territory. Once you enter U.S. territory, the surveillance has to stop immediately.

Here are the documents:

Classified documents show rules for NSA surveillance without a warrant

And now you know…..before too much time you might want to check on this stuff before too much condemnation….is it a violation of your civil rights?

We can argue that point for months and all we will do is make each other angry…….