The Nazi Voter

About here someone has read the title and is busy typing a reply to this post and condemning me for equating this person to the Nazis….well bite me!  This is a post about a voting bloc within Germany in the 1920’s and 30’s.

Several years ago I read a book about the state of Germany in the years after WW1 especially those that would be voting in the elections.  It covered many aspects of German society and the voting habits of its population.

A fascinating book, The Nazi Voter, written by Thomas Childers.

I recently found a good article about the same sort of stuff that was in the Nazi Voter……how society was breaking down and what led to the popularity of the Nazis…..

Amid the swirling mess in Berlin of political intrigue, rumors, and disorder, the SA, the Nazi storm troopers, stood out as an ominous presence. In the spring of 1932, many in the German democratic government came to believe the Brownshirts were about to take over by force.

Source: The History Place – Rise of Hitler: The Republic Collapses

It has always fascinated me as to how, in hindsight, could the German people allow someone like Hitler to come to power through the vote.

Some of my questions have been answered……

Thoughts?

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20 thoughts on “The Nazi Voter

  1. Looking back at Germany after WW1, I think it is easy to see the attraction of extreme politics. The Communists were very popular there, and Hitler’s party rose as the only viable opposition to them. He traded on the old values of German might, from past emperors, to the defeat of the Romans.
    No doubt he also claimed that he would “Make Germany Great Again”.
    Best wishes, Pete.

      1. I will admit that there were a couple of issues of his that I could agree with….but he got elected a flushed them down the toilet….chuq

  2. Actually, history can indeed return in certain cycles.. the swinging of the pendulum of fate, kinda thing. It’s the age-old conflict between those who have vs. those who have not. A rise in nationalism generally means a segment of society is suffering somewhere. Likely the reason communism didn’t win in 1920 and 30’s Germany was because it was “too Russian”… better to have home grown fascism as part of their nationalism.
    Bottom line… when you and your family are hungry you will believe in anyone that gets you and your loved ones the next meal. Simply the application of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs.

    But it’s important to understand the source and composition of the nationalistic fervor. Trump supporters contain those traditional right wing and ultra-right wing people who are always suspecting conspiracies, secret organizations, and rich people and/or big business controlling the universe. It’s also a home for the traditional racists and “secret” militia groups. Folks more along the line of a return to “white America”. But most important, his supporters contain those rust belt folks disenchanted with the economic effects on rural America and loss of certain manufacturing and mining jobs to globalization. We need to listen to these folks and help find them a way out…. not help them to go back to what was.

    Someone outside the U.S. could be looking in and wondering how a minority of voting Americans won an election that put in office a laughing stock. It’s all relative. 🙂

    1. For a nation that loves reality TV it is pretty obvious how it could happen….but you are right politicos need to find a way to talk with those people that feel the way his supporters do….chuq

  3. Ooh, Childers is the same person who did the “A History of Hitler’s Empire” lecture series from “The Great Courses” (i got it on sale, and it’s worth a listen). Good choice for a book–I’ll have to look it up since I hadn’t heard of it, but his lecture touched on some of it.

  4. “The Red Army won the war against fascism in Europe as the US hung back and allowed the Soviets and Germans to bleed each other dry. Then the OSS, in the form of Alan Dulles, contrived to save as many Nazi officials as possible to serve as operatives in their coming Cold War against the Soviets. Moreover, a large percent of the US corporate/financial, and industrial elite were Nazi sympathisers who hated communism and admired Nazism, from its racist/anti-semite belief system to his hyper-authoritian ideology e.g., from Prescott Bush to Henry Ford.” (4)

    Human rights activist Winston Weeks went on to say:

    “I’ve come to the conclusion that that the Dulles brothers originally planned for Hitler to attack the Soviet Union. There was a lot of rather covert funding for Hitler from American industrialists like Henry Ford, the Bush family and other prominent American figures as well. The plan went bad when Hitler attacked England. It’s a complex story but the bottom line is that there were droves of powerful capitalists in the USA and England who loved Hitler and saw Germany as an attack dog that could be trained and manipulated to destroy the Soviet Union.” (5)

      1. Down to the ZIO/neo/cons Rothschild & co….in every country. Cockroaches all of them..people simply do not know or do not appear interested as ‘they’ control the media.Filth!
        The Beckoning of Nuclear War https://shar.es/1TRIj8 via @grtvnews

    1. While I tend to agree that capitalist economics have many times gotten us into some conflicts it is, in fact, a result of a free market system. BUT.. again, this revisionist history that likes to condemn big business for having climbed in bed with all the demons and demagogues of history that we end up going to war against, gets a bit old and not totally the “rest of the story”. For example.. all these businesses that supposedly had pre-war sympathies with Hitler and the Nazis were actually doing business in a normal way, and supporting the guy who would encourage business growth. I have no heard or read of any U.S. business doing business with Nazi Germany once war was declared.. because that would have been illegal. One of these goofy half-stories just to get current emotions running was that story of how IBM helped the Nazis create databases to keep track of Jews in the concentrations camps by selling them punch card machines. Well, turns out IBM had been selling card punch machines to Europe in the 1930’s.. in normal business development during peacetime. The machines still operating into the 40’s were in fact used for Nazi camp purposes. But that had nothing to do with IBM doing anything illegal.
      As far as covert funding by power families in America… we would have to know the entire story… specifically, was it done during the war or before.

      1. Before.
        “The most hated sort [of moneymaking], and with the greatest reason, is usury, which makes a gain out of money itself, and not from the natural use of it. For money was intended to be used in exchange, but not to increase at interest. And this term usury which means the birth of money from money, is applied to the breeding of money, because the offspring resembles the parent. Wherefore of all modes of making money this is the most unnatural.” — Aristotle (384-322 BCE)

        “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes… Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” — Napoleon Bonaparte

        Mayer Amschel Rothschild had uttered his infamous “Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws”

      2. That big business supplied equipment to Germany is not really the issue (and “capitalism” deflects attention). The “left” narrative is: Hitler was evil and evil corporations profited from the industrial killing machine. Right narrative: Hitler had to be stopped because he was seeking to “rule the world”.
        Neither position is supported by evidence and one needs to look at context. Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933 and used all their influence to bring it about. Hitler’s interventions in Sudetenland and Poland were to protect Germans who found themselves persecuted (and being killed) in countries with arbitrary borders drawn under the Treaty of Versailles, which followed the first war to destroy Germany.

        Big business will do what big business does (it doesn’t suffer a moral conscience) – hence the military-industry complex selling weapons to all sides today – Oh what a lovely war! The IBM mythology is that the company’s punch card machines were part of the Nazi concentration camps’ killing machine. Yet no documentary evidence of such an industry exists – that they were work camps is not disputed. German needed healthy workers to produce stuff to continue the war. In the thirties, there was a lot of support and admiration for Hitler and national socialism which (similar to Venezuela today) raised the living standards, hopes and aspirations of millions of Germans. That popular support had to be undermined and Hitler demonised or the banksters’ power would be under threat globally.
        The pictures of emaciated POWs on liberation were of people starving to death because of allied bombing of supply lines. Thousands of Germans died post war from starvation too. The use of the concentration camp images helped create the holocaust mythology and has been devastatingly effective.

        You are right, we do need to know much more of the story. Gerard Menuhin brings together many strands and his take on WW2 is corroborated by other evidence, whereas the holocaust is asserted on the basis of confessions obtained under torture and witness statements from those with pecuniary interests in claiming victimhood.
        http://www.wvwnews.net/content/index.php?/news_story/book_tell_the_truth_and_shame_the_devil_by_gerard_menuhin.html

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