Are Americans Too Stupid For Democracy?

This is a “Press” that ask a question….mental midgets direct your vile at the author……

The election of 2016 has started a whole bunch of debate….mostly about the American electorate….we hear they are ignorant and at the same time that they are finally awake …….but is the American voter really that self-aware?

This is an article from 2014 that answers some of those questions…..

How can we rationally pursue our self-interests when we don’t know what’s going on?

In 2011, Newsweek asked 1,000 Americans to take the standard U.S. Citizenship test, and 38 percent of them failed. One in three couldn’t name the vice-president. A 2009 study in the European Journal of Communications looked at how informed citizens of the U.S., UK, Denmark and Finland were of the international news of the day, and the results weren’t pretty (PDF).

“Overall,” the scholars wrote, “the Scandinavians emerged as the best informed, averaging 62–67 percent correct responses, the British were relatively close behind with 59 percent, and the Americans lagging in the rear with 40 percent.” We didn’t fare much better when it came to domestic stories.

Source: Are Americans Too Stupid For Democracy? | Alternet

The whole idea of democracy is in question….like it or not…..let Plato help you out……

Do not be angry with me for speaking the truth; no man will survive who genuinely opposes you or any other crowd and prevents the occurrence of many unjust and illegal happenings in the city. A man who really fights for justice must lead a private, not a public, life if he is to survive for even a short time. (Apology 31e-32a)

These are the words of Socrates, who spoke before the Athenian jury in the trial that would, ultimately, condemn him to his death. Through works such as the Apology and The Republic, we can see Plato’s distaste of the concept of democracy. Why does he consider democracy to be so flawed? Let us look through his own eyes and see what his individual criticisms are, and determine if the very concept of democracy is as flawed as he believes it to be.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1824376/posts

And then there is those that say the system is corrupt or that millions of unauthorized people voted or……..this argument will continue on and on….no matter who wins this election or the next or the one after that…..

Americans do not accept losing graciously…..so the bullshit is NEVER ending….

 

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13 thoughts on “Are Americans Too Stupid For Democracy?

  1. Crazy how this election cycle is reminiscent of “even when you win, you lose.” I really wish we’d stop shooting ourselves in the foot in this country when it comes to picking our leaders. I haven’t had so many facepalms or head-meet-desk moments in my life til the days AFTER this election. Seriously, I don’t think my brain will stay intact much longer.

    1. This election has generated many of the situations you describe for me also….the sheer lunacy of the election is more than a brain can handle at times……chuq

  2. What I know now is staggering to what I knew even 6 months ago. Democracy is an extremely complex and intangible beast to contend with and it takes massive amounts of invested time for research and understanding. I’m far from an expert, however, I’m able to run circles around the uninformed (in a positive way) and use “FACTS” to support the statements I’m making. I do still get things wrong and that requires an open mind and an ability to constantly push out of my comfort zone. The volley of comments on a post you made yesterday is proof, and is the subject of a post I’m publishing today.

    Americans are lazy and suffer from a horrible case of TL;DR in this fast paced world of social media fake news and misinformation. One question I think we’d all get right is: “How does your shoe taste?”

    1. The problem is there are too many that will not approach any of this with an open mind….and there is my problem…..my grandfather use to say…”when you teach pigs to sing you waste your time and piss off the pig”….chuq

  3. I read the article, and downloaded it for study. Very well written. On the subject, I think Mencken may have expressed the idea best: “Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.” (H. L. Mencken) But how was that “individual ignorance” achieved?

    Of all the “artificially grouped” i.e., nationalist groupings, Americans were the most coddled, lied, forced, brainwashed, into the concept of consumerism. This meant a constant and deliberate barrage of lies from kindergarten on up, through schools, colleges, from the commercial media, particularly TV, and from politicians always, always promising a “return” to good times and the basic belief that “when the going gets tough the tough go shopping” as so well said by president Bush following 9-11.

    Properly educated people would not make good consumers. They may question the provenance of their goods, or worse, the actual need for most of them. They may come to question the belief that more stuff equates more happiness and security. Therefore the focus had to be on dummy-ing down, primarily in education by funding sports and denigrating the arts; turning people into mental midgets which in turn exacerbated the problems of misogyny, racism, bigotry and patriotic dogmatism, all fueled by materialism and hedonism. The entire nation was blinded and blindsided by its leaders into literally becoming the opprobrium of the world. It’s going to be a long, arduous slogging back and I personally doubt there is any will extant to even consider it.

      1. It’s been called many things, like group think (very religious concept!) and mob madness and I call it collective unreason… and it’s always in season… la, la-la, la-la! Some day in the far far future when the earth is green again and the unicorns are back, people will lose their gregarious collective “we’re all in this together” silliness and discover something that was always there for the taking: self empowerment. And the individual will rise from the ashes of communistic Marxist ideological political correctness, 1984 jack-boot Trumpianism and Brave New World drugged fuzziness and a new civilization (or not, since it won’t be needed) will arise. Oh, sorry, I fell asleep there for a minute and I was having a dream…

  4. Plato’s treatise, and point, (well-expressed by Henry M… as Sha”Tara notes), is actually a simple one. Democracy makes the assumption that every citizen is equal, and has equal interest, and, equal ability to keep themselves informed; an informed citizenry is the only way democracy will work to act as a force for justice.

    In nature, this simply isn’t true; people are NOT equal, in either of those categories. This is the basic reason those who stay informed, and are capable of understanding and participating in governance can lie, and cheat, and steal… because most of their constituency cannot understand how it all works. It’s all most of them can do to tie their own shoes, and hold down a job that will allow them to stay alive at all.

    Those now in power are well aware of this simple fact; humanity exists as a bell curve, not a straight line, or a circle. Some are going to be able to take advantage of others; it is up to those who understand, but have no desire to control others who must, in the end, either protect them, or suffer the same fate… unless, of course, they choose to play the game of thrones with the other insane people who have abrogated their humanity….

    It’s not that Americans are too stupid; it’s that too many of them are…

    gigoid, the dubious

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