2nd Is Here To Stay

College of Political Knowledge

Subject:  Early American History

This is my final paper (for now) on the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution….I have looked at historical events that lead to the inclusion of the 2nd into the Constitution……we have the first person to mention the guns, the events that lead to the inclusion and a look into the use of the word, ‘militia’ in the writing of the document…….and finally my conclusions on this part of the Constitution…….

Hopefully, my readers will remind themselves that my research was along historical lines, not from an ideological or judicial perspective……so there will be NO emotional ramblings, just historical facts and events……and I pray that the reader will read this for the historical content and not as a diatribe condemning or condoning………

Let’s look at the republican (small “r”) thinking of the day…….as it pertains to guns……”standing armies are dangerous and should be avoided.”  As the Constitution is being written the ideas put forth in 1787 were…….1) separation of powers, 2) authority of Congress to declare war, 3) guarantee the legality of slavery, 4) creation of electoral college, 5) provision for impeachment, 6) presidential state of the union message, 7) provision for ratifying the Constitution, 8) federalism, 9) bicameral legislature, 10) enumeration of powers of Congress, 11) finally, the 3/5ths compromise……and when it was ratified there is NO inclusion of an arms provision….that would come later, 1791 to be exact…….

At the time of the ratification of the Constitution there was NO American standing army to speak of, however each state had its armed factions that we call militias…..back in the days between the 7 years war and the revolution states had border skirmishes with neighbor states and even skirmishes  within the borders of a single state had its share of in fighting…Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island quickly come to mind……..in other words arms were necessary to protect ones self from ones neighbor.

The only mention of ‘arms’ in the constitution is the 2nd amendment……I believe that the key words in that amendment is “a well regulated militia”…………because of the always present conflicts between states and groups and the lack of a standing army…..it was necessary to keep a militia on stand by to help quell any and all uprisings…..I continue to believe that it was not included because the founders were concerned that government might intrude on the people but rather to keep the people from intruding on government.

The two leading thinkers of the constitutional era were Jefferson and Hamilton……different sides of the same coin, if you will……..as far as the document goes….Hamilton favored an interpretive approach to the constitution and then there is Jefferson who believe in a strict interpretation of the document…..

If the constitutional convention had taken more time to write and ratify I believe that it would have been substantially different in its make up……..with more time from inception to ratification the constitution would have had a different feel about it…….why do I say that?  Look at some of the items NOT included in the final draft……1) 2 term limit for prez, 2) universal manhood suffrage, 3) presidential cabinet, 4) direct election of senators, 5) political parties……..most of these became part of the laws of the country and if there had been more time in the drafting of the document they might have been included………… since there are NO founders left alive we are left with what others tell us the content of the constitution means…….and few of these analysis are from a historical perspective but rather from an emotional, ideological and judicial point of view……..the 2nd is here to stay…..and NO amount of scrutiny will change that and NO amount of debate will ever venture beyond the emotional or the ideological…….personally, it is something that the founders NEVER intended…..


4 thoughts on “2nd Is Here To Stay

  1. Another well written examination. There is one part, near the end, that I think you missed the mark though.

    “Look at some of the items NOT included in the final draft……1) 2 term limit for prez, 2) universal manhood suffrage, 3) presidential cabinet, 4) direct election of senators, 5) political parties”

    Each of these 5 points where either not included on purpose or where addressed but over turned by later amendments or laws. There is a great book called “Decision in Philadelphia” by Christopher Collier that analysis the debates and how the founding fathers came to their conclusions during the constitutional convention.

    1. The convention thought that first, no one would want to be President for too long because the position did not pay much and they had real business to get back to. Second, the people would not allow someone to stay President unless they where doing a good job, in which case a term limit would hurt the country.

    2. If the north had pushed on the rights of slaves the south never would had radified and we would have never had one United States of America. Of course this came out during several debates, but most important was the 3/5th voting debate.

    3. Cabinet was decided on as only being 3 or 4 advisors and not needing to be a big deal. The President, being an executive officer, would be able to decide on their own advisors and did not need congress to direct him.

    4. Senators where appointed by the states for a good reason, and we are seeing that reason today. States are no longer represented in this union, instead we have two houses to represent the people and now we have the grid lock the founders warned us about.

    5. The founders hated the idea of political parties and did all they could to exclude them.

    1. FL, good points….and yet each of them were to come about soon after the ratification……I do not think that we would be any better off with appointments over election than we are today….the reason number 5…it has never been about the representation of the people….I have several books that I got while doing my dissertation if you would like their titles I would gladly send them to you…..

      1. What Did The Constitution Mean To Early Americans……Edward Countryman

        The Birth Of The Republic……Edmund Morgan

        Colonies To Nation……Jack P. Greene

        How Democratic Is The American Constitution…..Robt. Dahl

        Hope these help……

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