I try to give my readers some interesting information that might expand their knowledge just a bit…..an FYI if you will….
As you watch the boob tube and the crime show you will hear the inevitable for unidentified dead people as John and Jane Doe…..
Ever wonder where that all began?
From the courts to the morgue, if the government doesn’t know a person’s name, or wants to withhold it for some reason, they generally use the name John Doe or Jane Doe as a placeholder. But why?
The John Doe custom was born out of a strange and long since vanished British legal process called an action of ejectment. Under old English common law, the actions landowners could take against squatters or defaulting tenants in court were often too technical and difficult to be of any use. So landlords would instead bring an action of ejectment on behalf of a fictitious tenant against another fictitious person who had allegedly evicted or ousted him. In order to figure out what rights to the property the made-up persons had, the courts first had to establish that the landlord really was the owner of the property, which settled their real reason for action without the landlord having to jump through too many legal hoops.
Frequently, landlords named the fictitious parties in their actions John Doe (the plaintiff) and Richard Roe (the defendant), though no one has been able to find the case where these names were first used or figure out why they were picked. The names don’t appear to have any particular relevance, and it might be that the first names were chosen because they were among the most common at the time. The surnames, meanwhile, both reference deer—a doe being a female deer and roe being a specific deer species (Capreolus capreolus) common in Britain. They might also have been the actual names of real people that a particular landlord knew and decided to use. Unfortunately, we just don’t know.
Whatever their ultimate origin, the names eventually became standard placeholders for unidentified, anonymous, or hypothetical parties to a court case. Most U.S. jurisdictions continue to use John Doe and his female counterpart, Jane Doe, as placeholder names, and will bring in Roe if two anonymous or unknown parties are involved in the same case. The Feds use these placeholders, too, perhaps most famously in Roe v. Wade. The Jane Roe in that case was actually Norma Leah McCorvey, who revealed herself soon after the Supreme Court decision.
(mentalfloss.com)
Now you know where this terminology began….aren’t glad I am here to expand your mind and so far I am a legal substance.
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Who cares who they are…they are nothing now but pasty-looking plastic faces filled with embalming fluid and in three months from now they will turn a bright red in their caskets and if they do not explode from the gases pushing against their insides, they will begin to turn into something that looks like a rotted log … and the process will go on from there …and if they remain unidentified, then they are of no significance to any living soul, so why ruminate about their condition?
This was just an FYI for people to learn why unidentified as John and Jane….nothing more….sorry if it offended you. chuq
was not offended….I just think the dead are dead and should be buried, memorialized and forgotten…which is what happens most of the time anyway. No offense taken, trust me.
Some of us think even the anonymous dead deserve a name. but that is just me chuq
fertilizer…good for the ecology and not much else.
Then that should apply to all dead and buried. chuq
yes it should but because of people’s vanity, it doesn’t.
Too many worship the dead of all stripes. chuq
I agree.
Strangely enough, calling unknown dead people John or Jane Doe has not existed in the UK in my lifetime. It is a very American thing, as over here they are just called ‘Unidentified Male’, (Or female) and given a case reference number.
Best wishes, Pete.
Some people think even the anonymous dead needs a name…..chuq