I wrote this before and it was not popular basically because the MSM has not given this information to the gullible public…..so few bothered to see what lead to this situation in Ukraine.
How It All Began
So once again I will try to help people see what happened to make Russia make the move to invade….there is more to the events than just Putin wanting to re-invigorate the old USSR.
It all basically began in 1998 with Pres. Clinton…..
1. 1998 – Beginning of NATO expansion – Bill Clinton
Many prominent former US government officials, members of Congress, diplomats, and foreign policy experts have objected to this expansion. “We’ll be back on a hair-trigger,” said Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a New York Democrat, during the debates in the Senate. Moynihan continued: “We’re talking about nuclear war. It is a curiously ironic outcome that at the end of the Cold War we might face a nuclear Armageddon.”
Senator Joseph Biden (D-Delaware), while calling Moynihan “the single most erudite and informed person in the Senate,” said he disagreed with him, and pushed for NATO’s expansion.
2. 2004 – Abrogation of ABM treaty – George W. Bush
This is what Bush said in November 2001 following Putin’s support for the Afghan operation a month earlier:
“A lot of people never really dreamt that an American President and a Russian President could have established the friendship …. to establish a new spirit of cooperation and trust so that we can work together to make the world more peaceful….I brought him to my ranch because, as the good people in this part of the world know, that you only usually invite your friends into your house…. a new style of leader, a reformer, a man who loves his country as much as I love mine…. a man who is going to make a huge difference in making the world more peaceful, by working closely with the United States.”
What a spirit of sanity from a man who would oversee a disastrous two terms in office which included the war in Iraq and an abrogation of one of the most strategic anti-nuclear war treaties.
3. 2008 – Push to bring Ukraine and Georgia into NATO – George W. Bush again
As Professor John Mearshimer stated in New Yorker “I think all the trouble in this case really started in April, 2008, at the NATO Summit in Bucharest, where afterward NATO issued a statement that said Ukraine and Georgia would become part of NATO. The Russians made it unequivocally clear at the time that they viewed this as an existential threat, and they drew a line in the sand.”
4. 2014 – Western backed and US coordinated Coup in Ukraine sets up the cornerstone of the current crisis – overseen by the duo of Joe Biden and Victoria Nuland
After two decades of eastward NATO expansion, this crisis was triggered by the West’s attempt to replace the democratically-elected President Yanukovich and his administration who were against Ukraine joining NATO with the new anti-Russia team that will be for it.
5. 2015 – Minsk Peace Accords are supported by the UN Security Council but sabotaged by the US, EU, and Ukraine – Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and the EU leadership.
As was discovered years later, the premise of the accords was designed as a dishonest fraud to buy time to arm Ukraine and prepare for the future war with Russia.
(antiwar.com)
Now that it has begun is support waning? (According to my comments I say no it is not waning)
Recent public opinion surveys regarding the extent of domestic backing for Washington’s Ukraine policy provide a decidedly mixed picture. A majority of Americans still support the Biden administration’s efforts to assist Kyiv’s war effort through financial and military aid and the sharing of military intelligence information.
However, the levels are down even from polls taken in late 2022, and they are down substantially from the extremely high support levels that existed immediately following Russia’s February 2022 invasion.
American public opinion appears to be following the downward trajectory that marked previous U.S. war campaigns since World War II. However, this time the decline in support is taking place even though no US forces are directly involved in the fighting, much less have incurred casualties. The growth of war weariness barely one year into the Ukraine conflict should be a warning signal to the administration that public support for Washington’s policy may be very fragile.
Is Weakening Support for Ukraine War Following a Historical Pattern?
There is always more to a story than the MSM allows to go forth…..and the sad part is no one wants to know the ‘rest of the story’ then prefer to hold into some convoluted tale of woe.
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Like you, I have discovered that hardly anybody is interested in the historical background of this war. Ukraine good, Russia bad. They like to keep it simple.
Best wishes, Pete.
Wars have reasons and to overlook that is why we repeat mistakes over and over. chuq
I am one of those who like to keep it simple too … basically because I am not in a position to influence the outcome. Therefore, I really don’t care how it all began …with an aggressive dictator in charge of nuclear power, it is inevitable that something like it would eventually happen — What interests me is how it is all going to turn out. Will the new Hitler finally conquer all of Europe … Will the pacifistic isolationism of the fearful West help him attain his goals and will they, in the end, fall victim to him as well .. because of their disinterest… because of their misunderstanding of his motives ….because of the apathy that always leads to the defeat of good things that could have been? I don’t know and there isn’t a damned thing that I or anybody I have direct dealings with can do to stop whatever is going to happen. But it is good discussion material for the armchair corporals and the intellectuals who would rather move chess pieces over the board of inevitability than to mess around with things they know little or nothing about … Give me a seasoned statesman to tell me all about Ukraine and Russia …but do not give me somebody like Chamberelain …I like the comedic image that I entertain of the fat-assed, beer guzzling, unshaven, not-too-often bathed, farting right wing idiot, sitting with his feet cocked up on a dinner table with a couple of moose heads hung on the wall behind it, smoking his cigarette while his bucktoothed wife, pregnant and barefoot, stirs the freshly-killed rabbit over the wood burning stove in their ramshackle broken down mobile home, on a bare hillside, on a mountain, hear a river, as what should pass for a man blurts out his “Opinerons” about “Them there damned Ruskies” —I fear that some of our contemporary members of Congress are not far removed from that image and the worst part is they are going to be the ones making the decisions about our involvement with Ukraine ..and I am sure their inevitable decision will be one that emboldens the Russian aggressor to run on full tilt in his territorial ambitions …and God help us all is all I have to say. We are living in an age of ignorance, the likes of which I never believed could ever happen until I witnessed the rise of the Putin Faction within our own government.
Nothing we are doing in Ukraine will stop this war….all we are doing as we always do is feed the violence and extend the devastation. Not able to do anything? Is that not what the Germans said in the 30s…..and that did not turn out so well for them. chuq
Our pacifists are advocating for the same thing the Germans were advocating for in the 30s — do nothing …and I can’t wait to see how that is going to turn out for the rest of the world.
I do not think ‘pacifists’ are advocating to do nothing….at least I am not I have given my ideas on numerous occasions but few read that far. chuq
Trying to open peace negotiations with a closed mind like Putins is the same as doing nothing because it is an exercise in futility and if a peace negotiation were to obtain some agreements with that asshole, it would be no time before he ignores them.
A ceasefire would be a godsend to the civilians in Ukraine….peace could come later….but something needs doing to help the non-combatants who are suffering far more than their leadership in Kyiv. chuq
I remember how the noncombatants suffered in the invaded countries when the nazis were blitzkrieging back in the 40s –the only thing that helped them was for the allies to level most of the would-be conquerers to the ground …I think that would be effective in the case of Ukraine as well.
More killing is not an answer for me. chuq
We need to learn from what has worked before and when we are confronted with the same or a similar adversary, we need to use whatever has worked before. The world needs to ban together and neutralize the Russian threat if ever there is to be a hope of peace.
Europe should take the lead….Russia is more a threat to them. chuq
If killing is not the answer then insectant spray manufacturers are in the wrong business —
They are for the GOP just keeps getting stronger. chuq
Are you starting to use slogans?
The facts are not slogans. chuq
I know a bunch of Ukrainians that would take issue with that characterization of Maidan. It’s not surprising that a government seeing go to tie its country to Russia instead of Europe, might see itself deposed. Contrary to popular opinion, the CIA isn’t behind every international action……especially those from the grass roots.
That is the prev ailing narrative since 1954. chuq
That is the absurdly easy theory that most people latch on to.
And yet effective. chuq