Does Anyone Really Know?

Iraq is bursting at the seams…..violence is taking over….and everyone and i mean everyone has an opinion on what to do….but the question should be asked….is anyone thinking of what cold happen to the country of Iraq?

US does not not have a plan………Iran has a plan but will it fly in the West?  The Arab world is quaking in their shoes…..whatever they do could be wrong……….the rest of the world would rather go back to Ukraine…….

I know most Americans could care less….that is unless they can get something that they can insult the prez over…….but what could happen?

In a piece written by Kaiwon Bahroz, a political analyst for Middle East News sees several scenarios for the country….these are……

1. Baghdad is conquered by ISIL
This is the worst of all possible outcomes. It will result in protracted and bloody street fighting between various militias including ISIL. Such an outcome would also be a political nightmare for Barack Obama, making it even harder to convince Americans that their engagement in Iraq is over. The U.S. may be forced to consider whether they will have to intervene directly. In that case we face an Iraq War phase two.

The probability of a conquest of Baghdad is not great. ISIL is admittedly strong and probably has 10,000 prospective soldiers and jihadists they can draw on. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in turn has limited control and loyalty in the new Iraqi army, and the army is poorly trained, as we have seen in Mosul. But in and around Baghdad, Maliki is still strong. He has control over his own forceful sjiamilitser, and the armies have a lot of weapons.

2. Attacks against Kurdish areas
Another scenario is that ISIL might try to attack the autonomous Kurdistan (KRG) in the north. But the question is whether ISIL will waste its power on this.

Kurds lack the kind of weapons that allows them to be sure to keep ISIL away. Kurds fear this, and on Thursday they even went into the big oil hub of Kirkuk to prevent ISIL from attacking the city.

One possible outcome is that the Kurds will declare their own state, with Kirkuk as its capital, as a counterbalance to the chaos in the south. If the situation continues on the current track, the Kurds could seek international support for this venture, which still wouldn’t solve the problem in Iraq.

3. Baghdad strikes back militarily
That is what we are now experiencing. Baghdad has carried out air strikes, and the U.S. might use drones and/or aircraft. Air strikes will not be able to force ISIL away. Maliki therefore hopes to use the fear of ISIL to build a common front where the Iraqi Army, Kurdish Peshmerga and Shiite militias together try to drive ISIL back. Would such an alliance defeat ISIL?

Assad in Syria is unable to remove the jihadists although he is militarily superior. Maliki is therefore totally dependent on the former Sunni insurgent groups that have so far withstood him. A win against ISIL therefore requires a political reconciliation process in Iraq that no one other than the U.S. can guarantee. But Obama has so far been passive and focused on negotiations with Iran. Iran has no desire for increased U.S. involvement or to get the Sunnis back into a more powerful role in Iraqi politics.

4. Designated caliphate in parts of Iraq and Syria
This is ISIL’s real main goal. They want to establish a caliphate crisscrossing the border between Syria and Iraq. ISIL is a dogmatic opponent of state boundaries in the Middle East as they were drawn up after the First World War. ISIS has previously declared minor areas of Iraq as a caliphate and can do this again. Yet, their ability to maintain control over large areas over a long time is still limited.

The group lacks local support in almost every location. The solution lies in a genuine peace process between the Shia government in Baghdad and Iraq’s Sunni outcasts. Here the U.S. has a key role because they can put pressure on the regime in Baghdad. The alternative is prolonged chaos and an enduring focal point for a new generation of regional and international terrorism – something that will give the debate in the U.S. about intervention new life.

5. Chaos and prolonged civil war
This is the most probable outcome. Iraq is currently, in practice, no longer a state. As of the war in 2003, Iraq has gone from being an authoritarian dictatorship under Saddam’s total control, to something that strongly resembles the fragmented and stateless Afghanistan.

Neither Maliki nor the Americans were joined by the great part of Iraq that was pushed out when Saddam fell. Instead, the Sunnis have been suppressed. This has allowed for a strong ISIL and made much of Iraq an unclaimed and chaotic place. Unlike in Afghanistan, the troubled areas extend all the way up to the shores of the Mediterranean and the edge of Europe, absorbing angry and radicalized youth from across the Middle East and the West.

There you have 5 scenarios that could change the face of the Middle East and it could all begin to happen in Iraq.

Personally, Iraqis need to sort their problems out for themselves……they wanted us gone in 2012 and now Maliki wants our help……he needs to get a grip……the Sunnis are Iraqis too…..to treat them otherwise is not something we should support……..

 

The War in Iraq Cost $4 Trillion and Enormous Loss of Life: 8 Warmongers Who Would Take Us Back | Alternet

The Hawks are gathering their ilk….they are making a case for a return to Iraq and finish the job we started…..whatever that is…..I am still not sure what the conclusion was suppose to have been in the country……they’re waiting and talking to anyone that will listen to their BS…..

Who will win out in this situation….the Hawks or those with calmer heads?

 

The War in Iraq Cost $4 Trillion and Enormous Loss of Life: 8 Warmongers Who Would Take Us Back | Alternet.

Why Does Anybody Care What John McCain Thinks? | Nomadic Politics

With the return to massive violence in Iraq the NeoCons, the original architects of the 2003 invasion of Iraq are back in the spotlight and they are loving it………Cheney, Bolton, Graham and McCain…..

McCain had NOTHING as a presidential candidate….

McCain has NOTHING as a senator……

And McCain is consistently WRONG on his foreign policy stands……

So now the question is ask……..

 

Why Does Anybody Care What John McCain Thinks? | Nomadic Politics.

Liars Elude Justice–Again

I have been a critic of the Iraq War from the beginning and of course that made me rather unpopular after 9/11….I was accused of being unpatriotic and un-American….I knew that the BS about Saddam being in league with AQ was crap…….Saddam would have NEVER let such an organization exist in Iraq……anyone that could have challenged his authority…….I could see NO reason for an attack on Iraq in those days if terrorism was the basis of a war in Afghanistan and Iraq……

I said after the start that someone needed to be held responsible for all the needless death and destruction…..again I was all the things that is un-American.

Now there is a call for someone to take accountability for all the stuff that happened in Iraq……of course our crappy leaders will NEVER have to face their crime….but there was a ray of hope in the UK…..there has been an investigation on what was truth and what was lies….it looked promising……until very recently…..

Sir John Chilcot, the head of a British inquiry into the invasion of Iraq, has conceded defeat on his efforts to release the details of over 130 conversations between former President Bush and former Prime Minister Tony Blair related to the plot to invade Iraq. Sir John admits now the records will never be made public.

Instead, under the terms of a secretive agreement between the Cameron government and the Obama Administration, the Chilcot Inquiry will only be allowed to give “the gist” of what was discussed in certain of the conversations, and that none of it can provide any information related to President Bush’s views.

Though Sir John himself made it clear this was quite a defeat for his struggling inquiry, the Cameron government tried to spin it as a major accomplishment, saying the gist would be a lot more than they had ever anticipated would be allowed by the US.

The Chilcot Inquiry was announced in June 2009 by the Gordon Brown government, but has stalled for years, with the government promising to “protect” the US from embarrassment in the release. Years later, even predictions of a 2015 publication still look extremely unlikely.

There is going to be NO justice for all the death and destruction…..now because of all the lies and misinformation it looks like not even the country of Iraq will survive our war……

It is never too late to make the bastards face justice……I am talking about bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and even Obama and Clinton……keep the focus on what they have done and maybe one day they will get what is coming to them.

Just a friendly reminder!

since this report Tony Blair has come out of his shell to speak…….he has said “the situation in Iraq was not the responsibility of the those that attacked Iraq.  That societies like Iraq ruled by a dictator results like this should be expected once he is removed.”

Okay I read that and had a good laugh at the stupidity of the statement and the stupidity of those that believe such pure manure.  if we went into Iraq because Saddam was gonna use WMDs and we eliminate the cause….we should have expected this to happen…..right?  WE DID NOT!  in our rush for oil we could not see the sand for the camel crap!

But if you like good humor read Blair’s essay………http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/tony-blair-iraq-essay-full-text-we-have-to-liberate-ourselves-from-the-notion-that-we-caused-this-crisis-we-havent-9537514.html?printService=print

A pretty good piece by Blair….I understand the necessity but I question his premise………let know what you think…..