Time for some history….(this is where you can tune out if so desired)….
Most of us old farts remember the horrific medical experimentation done by the likes of Mengele, Eichmann, Himmler, et al.,…these quacks used prisoners as guinea pigs….and they were condemned by the rest of the world as purveyors of genocide.
The sad part is the younger generation cannot seem to come up with one prison camp name…..
In 2025, 48% of Americans ages 18-29 could not name a single concentration or death camp, according to a survey by the nonprofit Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, which works to secure compensation and restitution for Holocaust survivors.
Another 53% of surveyed Americans said that they had encountered Holocaust “denial or distortion while on social media.”
My research shows that Holocaust education and awareness, though, doesn’t always follow a linear path.
How sad is that? 6 million dead and no one can be bothered to remember them. But I guess you gotta be old to remember this shit.
The US and others were just as guilty of unethical experiments like Tuskegee Syphilis Trials, the UK’s Porton Down Chemical Trials, and others were also involved…..
Research involving human subjects is littered with a history of scandal that often shapes people’s views of the ethics of research. Often the earliest cited case is English physician Edward Jenner’s development of the smallpox vaccine in 1796, where he injected an eight-year-old child with the pus taken from a cowpox infection and then deliberately exposed her to an infected carrier of smallpox.
Although Jenner’s experiment was, fortunately, successful, the method of exposing a child to a deadly disease in this way would undoubtedly nowadays be seen as unacceptable. Perhaps the most notorious cases of unethical research were revealed during the Nuremberg trials concerning Nazi experiments on concentration camp prisoners. This “research” included involuntary sterilisation, inducing hypothermia, and exposing subjects to diseases such as tuberculosis.
There are also examples of government-run research that took advantage of the vulnerability of the subjects to ensure their participation and which resulted in the subjects experiencing severe harms, such as the Tuskegee Syphilis trials or the UK-run Porton Down chemical experiments in which 11,000 military personnel were exposed to mustard and nerve gas between 1939 and 1989.
Project MKUltra began in 1953 and was halted in 1973. MKUltra used numerous methods to manipulate its subjects’ mental states and brain functions, such as the covert administration of high doses of psychoactive drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals without the subjects’ consent. Additionally, other methods beyond chemical compounds were used, including electroshocks,[3]hypnosis,[4][5]sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, and other forms of torture.[6][7]
Project MKUltra was preceded by Project Artichoke.[8][9] It was organized through the CIA’s Office of Scientific Intelligence and coordinated with the United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories.[10] The program engaged in illegal activities,[11][12][13] including the use of U.S. and Canadian citizens as unwitting test subjects.[11]: 74 [14][15][16] MKUltra’s scope was broad, with activities carried out under the guise of research at more than 80 institutions aside from the military, including colleges and universities, hospitals, prisons, and pharmaceutical companies.[17] The CIA operated using front organizations, although some top officials at these institutions were aware of the CIA’s involvement.[11]
Read this if you are not familiar with the tactics of the CIA and how they manipulated American citizens with horrific experiments.
Do not condemn anyone until you see what the CIA is capable of doing….
Korean prisoners of war in the 1950s were subjected to early MK-ULTRA experiments while in American custody, according to recently declassified CIA documents which confirm these experiments for the first time.
The only reporting that previously referenced Koreans being used as guinea pigs for these experiments was journalist John Marks’s landmark 1979 book, The Search for the “Manchurian Candidate.” Using CIA documents, Marks traced the now-infamous MK-ULTRA project to its start, when it was known as Project Bluebird. In the book, Marks describes how, in October 1950, 25 unnamed North Korean POWs were chosen as the first test subjects to receive “advanced” interrogation techniques, with the overt goal of “controlling an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against such fundamental laws of nature as self-preservation.”
If you haven’t seen it, I can recommend this film about US soldiers in Vietnam being subjected to drug experiments. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099871/
‘Tim Robbins stars in the 1990 psychological horror film Jacob’s Ladder, which revolves around a Vietnam veteran experiencing terrifying hallucinations, PTSD, and flashbacks. The plot centers on his investigation into his past and the potential military use of a hallucinogenic drug called BZ on his platoon.’
Best wishes, Pete.
don’t worry about people not being able to name concentration camps years ago..give it all some time and they will be well acquainted with the new ones that will sprout up all over the country….and are in the process of doing so even as I speak.
If you haven’t seen it, I can recommend this film about US soldiers in Vietnam being subjected to drug experiments. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099871/
‘Tim Robbins stars in the 1990 psychological horror film Jacob’s Ladder, which revolves around a Vietnam veteran experiencing terrifying hallucinations, PTSD, and flashbacks. The plot centers on his investigation into his past and the potential military use of a hallucinogenic drug called BZ on his platoon.’
Best wishes, Pete.
I have not seen it….thanx for the heads up chuq
don’t worry about people not being able to name concentration camps years ago..give it all some time and they will be well acquainted with the new ones that will sprout up all over the country….and are in the process of doing so even as I speak.
Alligator Alcatraz comes to mind…..but mostly people of color will remember others not so much chuq