Jive Talkin’

The US-Ukraine-Russia mash-up has been in the news lately…..

After all the back and forth between the three [parties recently the Trump admin came up with a plan…Zelensky balked….then he was open to the talks between US and Russia to help end the war with a ceasefire…

But Zelensky held on to his strict policy of no territory for peace….

President Volodymyr Zelensky explained his understanding of the ceasefire proposed by Ukrainian and American officials this week, saying his country would not make any territorial concessions. Additionally, Kiev expects “strong steps” from President Donald Trump should Moscow reject the plan.

Discussing the ceasefire proposal on Wednesday, Zelensky said, “We are fighting for our independence. Therefore, we will not recognize any occupied territories as Russia’s,” adding, “Our people have fought for this, our heroes died. How many injured, how many passed. No one will forget about it… This is the most important red line. We will not let anyone forget about this crime against Ukraine.”

Zelensky’s refusal to give up territory makes it unlikely the Kremlin will agree to the ceasefire, as Russian officials insist the five Ukrainian provinces annexed by Moscow will never be returned to Kiev. Additionally, Russia says it is seeking a permanent end to the conflict, not a short-term truce.

https://libertarianinstitute.org/news/zelensky-kiev-wont-cede-territory-wants-strong-us-response-if-russia-rejects-ceasefire/

Then Putin said that he was open to the proposal of a ceasefire ‘but with condition’….

Russian President Vladimir Putin has signaled that he’s open to a ceasefire in Ukraine but that he has “questions” about the 30-day US-Ukraine proposal that need to be discussed.

“The idea itself is the right one, and we definitely support it,” Putin said, according to The New York Times. “But there are questions that we need to discuss, and I think that we need to talk them through with our American colleagues and partners.”

The Russian leader listed potential conditions for a 30-day truce, including a guarantee that Ukraine wouldn’t be supplied with more weapons. “We also want guarantees that during the 30-day ceasefire, Ukraine will not conduct mobilization, will not train soldiers, and will not receive weapons,” he said, according to RT.

Putin also questioned who would monitor the ceasefire. “Who will determine where and who has violated a potential ceasefire agreement along a 2,000-kilometer line? Who will attribute blame for any violations? These are all questions that require thorough examination from both sides,” he said.

The Russian leader said any long-term peace deal needs to address the “root causes” of the war. He made the comments as US envoy Steve Witkoff arrived in Russia to discuss the proposal. Yuri Ushakov, a Kremlin official, said Witkoff would be holding a closed-door meeting with Putin.

(antiwar.con)

Then this happened….A joint statement between the US and Ukraine that was released after talks in Saudi Arabia on Tuesday said that Ukraine had “expressed readiness to accept the US proposal to enact an immediate, interim 30-day ceasefire, which can be extended by mutual agreement of the parties, and which is subject to acceptance and concurrent implementation by the Russian Federation.”

All this back and forth…will he, won’t he made me think of the song by the BeeGees….Jive Talking.

This will fall apart because I do not think anyone really wants an end to this thing….Russia agreed to lift some of the sanctions and Zelensky agrees to keep the aid flowing…..but that is not a true reason for a ceasefire just a lull.

Is this real or is it just a dangerous game?

More to come.

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8 thoughts on “Jive Talkin’

  1. I”m sure Putin will fight to keep territorial gains and will claim the missing children can’t be found now. It needs the Russian parliament to stop him but that’s unlikely. I can only hope that this time you are wrong and that the armies want peace. I don’t trust Trump as a negotiator for the Ukrainians though.

  2. Your skepticism’s spot-on: does anyone really want this to end? Russia’s sanctions relief and Ukraine’s aid flow might keep the war machine humming, just at a lower volume. A 30-day truce could be a lull, not a resolution—a chance for both sides to catch their breath, rearm, and plot the next move. Putin’s conditions sound like a setup to lock in gains, while Zelensky’s banking on Western backbone that’s been shaky at best. The US might just want a win to tout, not a lasting fix.

    Is it real or a dangerous game? Probably both. There’s a kernel of intent—Trump likes the optics, Zelensky needs the lifeline, Putin wants the upper hand—but the gaps are too wide, and the trust is nonexistent. History backs this up: Russia broke the Minsk agreements after 2014, and Ukraine’s been burned before. Without a miracle—or a brutal shift in power dynamics—this ceasefire’s more jive talk than solid ground. It could fall apart fast, leaving the war simmering and the players more entrenched. Dangerous? Sure. Real? Only until the next move proves it’s not.

  3. Your skepticism’s spot-on: does anyone really want this to end? Russia’s sanctions relief and Ukraine’s aid flow might keep the war machine humming, just at a lower volume. A 30-day truce could be a lull, not a resolution—a chance for both sides to catch their breath, rearm, and plot the next move. Putin’s conditions sound like a setup to lock in gains, while Zelensky’s banking on Western backbone that’s been shaky at best. The US might just want a win to tout, not a lasting fix.

    Is it real or a dangerous game? Probably both. There’s a kernel of intent—Trump likes the optics, Zelensky needs the lifeline, Putin wants the upper hand—but the gaps are too wide, and the trust is nonexistent. History backs this up: Russia broke the Minsk agreements after 2014, and Ukraine’s been burned before. Without a miracle—or a brutal shift in power dynamics—this ceasefire’s more jive talk than solid ground. It could fall apart fast, leaving the war simmering and the players more entrenched. Dangerous? Sure. Real? Only until the next move proves it’s not.

  4. sorry for the duplicate comment… the first time i made it i could not see that it had been sent…

  5. It’s about the $$$. If the mucky mucks on top who want this had to be on the front lines, this shtshow would be over tomorrow. Sorry so blunt, but am I wrong?

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