Challenging the Motives Behind War « Antiwar.com Blog

Sugar coating the info for war is been a tried and true technique for American presidents in the past……but the real reasons are usually more simple than what we are told……

Ever ask….what are the motives for this war?

 

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This is the speech Obama would give on ISIS if he were brutally honest – Vox

The GOP is demanding the prez come up with a strategy…..not out of any genuine concern but rather to be used during the upcoming election……this is so much silly political game they, GOP, is playing………..

The prez will be addressing the nation today with his new plan to fight and ultimately destroy ISIS…..my views on this are well documented here on IST…..to me his speech will be nothing but a feel good collection of words…….the American people deserve honesty.

This is the speech that Obama should give to the American people…….but will not.

 

This is the speech Obama would give on ISIS if he were brutally honest – Vox.

 

The prez will address the nation at 9pm eastern….read this then listen to the prez and then tell me which one is more appropriate.

But never fear chuq the opinionated SOB and all around good guy will be on the job tomorrow with his critique of the Prez’s speech and his stated strategy……

Propaganda Vs Propaganda

Remember Mad Magazine’s Spy vs Spy?  Something was going to go wrong with either the ‘white” spy or the “black”……..

Well the US has a new plan of action to employ in its fight with ISIS/ISIL/IS (you choose…I am tired of trying to keep up with the acronyms)……..the US will fight IS propaganda with US propaganda…….

Newser) – A new YouTube video depicts ISIS in all its brutality, but this time ISIS isn’t responsible—bizarrely, the US State Department is, the Washington Post reports. Mock recruitment video “Welcome to ISIL-Land” is 69 seconds of graphic violence meant to undermine the abundance of ISIS online propaganda. The message: ISIS casually kills innocent Muslims and they’ll kill you, too. Using footage shot by the group—including mosques blown up by suicide bombers, crucified bodies, severed heads, whippings, and executions, as per the New York Daily News—the video is aimed at young and disaffected Western Muslims, who are “potential recruits, potential sympathizers,” says a department spokeswoman. Some 100 Americans have already joined ISIS, adds CNN.

So far, the video hasn’t proven popular, with only 42,000 views since July—far less than the execution of journalist James Foley. But ISIS is a formidable online adversary, proving itself “successful and effective … at using propaganda, particularly social media,” one terrorism expert tells the Post. And then there’s this problem—potential ISIS recruits are “enthused by videos of executions and suicide bombings, not deterred by them,” says one expert. The YouTube video is part of a wider campaign to battle ISIS on those platforms, the US posting opposing messages on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr in various languages. The department acknowledges the latest video’s flaws: “We poke holes in their narrative, try to turn the tables. You’re not going to get a knockout blow,” says an official.

By modern definition… propaganda is lies used to sway the person to a certain way of thinking…….does that mean that the US will be lying to change minds?

Will this work?  Or is it just a limp wrist (no pun intended) approach?

Your thoughts please.

“If It Walks Like A Duck And………”

Opinion from the desk of the Editor:

 

Yes, I admit it….I am a news geek!  I watch even press conferences to see if there may be something to post about in the future……and the one that the prez had yesterday did not disappoint…  until the rest of the social media I will not write about the color of his suit…to me that is just petty and shallow….

The prez covered a wide array of international subjects…of course there was the inevitable Ukraine statement….Russia be bad….yada yada….after that condemnation he turned to the 800 lb gorilla in the room….Iraq.

On another major foreign-policy front, Obama played down the prospect of imminent US military action in Syria, saying “we don’t have a strategy yet” for degrading the violent militant group seeking to establish a caliphate in the Middle East. He said he has asked the Pentagon to develop a “range of options.” And in blunt terms, the president said it was time for Middle Eastern nations to “stop being ambivalent” about the aims of extremist groups like the Islamic State. “They have no ideology beyond violence and chaos and the slaughter of innocent people.” You can read a full transcript here.

After the presser the press sec was out in forced explaining what the prez had said…..especially the “we don’t have a strategy yet” comment……he made most of the major outlets to explain……and then he was on All In With Chris Hayes on MSNBC and finally someone asked the question that needs to be asked…..Hayes asked point blank…”Is the US at war with ISIL”?

And the press sec said “No”…..and then went about giving all the day’s talking points……the usual crap.

This is where I want to interject my feelings here……if one would ask a member of ISIL he would give you a definite YES!

You see if you have rockets and bombs flying up your nose it is kinda impossible to see it any other way…..he would sharply disagree with the press sec………

In case you might be interested………..U.S. military operations in Iraq, including airstrikes and surveillance flights, have cost about $560 million since mid-June, the Pentagon said Friday.

Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Pentagon press secretary, said the average daily cost has been $7.5 million. He said it began at a much lower rate in June and has escalated as the airstrikes in northern Iraq intensified this month.

A Helluva price tag for something that is NOT a war!

If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck…it probably is a duck……so yes we are at war with ISIL and any other answer to that question is so disingenuous that it is almost unbelievable….

 

 

The Only Democracy In The Middle East

Opinion from the desk of the Editor:

I have written a lot on the Middle East a region that I like…..and most of it has been met with understanding….but in the isolated moments the haters have shown up….haters….those people that hate Arabs and Muslims and anyone with an opinion in conflict with theirs…..but to most of them I say BITE ME!  I will debate anyone on the region as long as their hatred and bigotry is left at the door and they approach the subject with knowledge……

I bring this up because I have debated people that do not agree with me that Israel is NOT a democracy and the media needs to cease using that analogy……and our less than intelligent diplomats need to cease also…….

I offer up what I see as counter-democracy in Israel……..

Israel has built an Apartheid Wall that separates one ethnic group from another….

Israel takes land from farmers to build settlements for Jewish right wingers……..

Israel silences dissent Arab-Israelis in their parliament, the Knesset…..

Israeli officials call for genocide against citizens of their own country…….

There are segregated roads in Israel you can use them if you have the correct tag color……

And then here is my fave……Israeli soldiers are routinely investigated on suspicion of “fraternizing with minorities,” generally a euphemism for Arabs, even though no such offense exists. This, according to the transcript of a Military Police interview, a copy of which was obtained by Haaretz …………

Deputy Speaker of the Israeli Knesset and member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ruling Likud Party, Moshe Feiglin, has called for the use of concentration camps for the “conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters.”

Sharing a plan for the destruction of Gaza in a letter addressed to Netanyahu on his Facebook page on August 1, Feiglin wrote “What is required now is that we internalize the fact that Oslo is finished, that this is our country – our country exclusively, including Gaza.”

That from an elected official, a high ranking one at that…….

A prominent Israeli blogger wrote that genocide should be permissible…..

In the post titled “When Genocide is Permissible,” Yochanan Gordon framed his premise as “a question for all the humanitarians out there.”

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?

During hostilities Muslims are barred from their houses of worship

Those are just a few of the problems….over the years they have made Arab-Israelis use a car tag that identifies them…….Palestinians were forced to work for lower wages that an Israeli with like skills……Palestinians are second class citizens……..Palestinian areas have a limited access to water……

There are many cases where the Israelis have denied Palestinians living under Israeli rule from their civil rights…..

The world needs to stop calling Israel a democracy….Israel is NO more democratic than I am a Mexican gardener…….having what appears to be an election does not make a democracy.  it is that simple!