Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say | McClatchyPosted: 20 May 2013
Since no one on the Right will let this go…..I have shared this with a few of my readers and now want all my followers, both Left and Right, can see what the lack of security was all about in Benghazi……like I have said many times…there was more to this story than people want to admit….
We all know what happen that day a couple of months ago in Libya…..our ambassador was killed with three others in Benghazi……and since that day both parties have run for the nearest mic to get in their political talking points…..a couple of them sound like bitter old men (another reason that these types need to retire at age 70)……..this whole bunch of crap just sounds like political positioning to me…..they ALL want answers….and there should be answers forthcoming….but to my mind….NO one is asking the questions that need to be answered……..
First, Benghazi is a consulate and not an embassy……I bring that up because security is handled differently (I say that basing it on what I experienced in the past, they may have changed)….okay now to the real questions that need to be answered……
1–Why was the ambassador in Benghazi without an adequate security detail? The ambassador knows this area well and should have known that or been briefed on the volatility of the Eastern side of the country….militias refuse to disarm and that AQ is very active in this area……
2–Why were their two CIA agents that were unarmed with him?
3–Why was there not an adequate security detail on his flank?
We may NEVER know these answers…..why? My best guess is that it was a top secret meeting and they were trying to show trust…….if so they learn nothing in Afghanistan when a doctor took out the top OBL team with one bomb……if you are gonna be stupid you have got to be strong…….
If the ambassador knew all the pitfalls before hand then what happened is on his head and his head alone……all this Benghazi hoopla is just that…..a lot of smoke….a lot of ginning up by the media….and political points trying to be made.
This whole situation is sad…sad that four Americans died……sad that it is turning into a political tennis match….sad that the running of the country takes a back seat to ambitions…..sad that it appears to be an exercise in stupidity……
This shows me that there is nothing gonna change in DC……..this is all partisan crap….even after all the positive news that both sides were gonna work together…….this illustrates that it is just the same as their campaign promises…..total bovine fecal matter………
Yesterday was the big day…….Mitt gave his much anticipated (by whom is your guess) foreign policy speech…..I was tweeting live for awhile but it got to be too much for me to listen to…..I was gonna let it pass and allow the chattering class to have their day……I just could not let it go…….
We know some things about Mitt Romney’s foreign policy positions: He believes President Obama has not been a strong enough ally of Israel or a strong enough opponent of Iran. He thinks the U.S. government should get involved in arming Syrian rebels. He believes that U.S. aid to Egypt should be tied to promises from that nation’s leaders, including to protect Coptic Christians and respect a peace treaty with Israel. He wants to increasePentagon funding by spending at least four percent of gross domestic product on defense. He wants to build more naval ships and submarines. And he thinks Mr. Obama has been too willing to apologize for America on the world stage.
Early in his speech he tried to inject a bit of Reaganism when he said , General Marshall once said, “The only way human beings can win a war is to prevent it.” Those words were true in his time—and they still echo in ours.
It was lame! It is tired neo-con rhetoric…..I saw nothing in it of substance….just a reiteration of stands from decades ago….nothing new….nothing at all!
“The attacks against us in Libya were not an isolated incident. They were accompanied by anti-American riots in nearly two dozen other countries,mostly in the Middle East, but also in Africa and Asia. Our embassies have been attacked. Our flag has been burned. Many of our citizens have been threatened and driven from their overseas homes by vicious mobs, shouting “Death to America.” These mobs hoisted the black banner of Islamic extremism over American embassies on the anniversary of the September 11th attacks.”
Chest thumping…but one minor piece of crap….the Black Flag does not symbolize terrorism…..it is one of the basic colors of Islam to include red, green and white…..it is minor thing but still if he wants to be prez he should be more accurate.
“Americans are asking how this happened, how the threats we face have grown so much worse, and what this calls on America to do. These are the right questions. And I have come here today to offer a larger perspective on these tragic recent events—and to share with you, and all Americans, my vision for a freer, more prosperous, and more peaceful world”.
Nothing he said there is accurate……being a heavy handed enforcer…,will do NOTHING to make the world freer.
“This is what makes America exceptional: It is not just the character of our country—it is the record of our accomplishments. America has a proud history of strong, confident, principled global leadership—a history that has been written by patriots of both parties. That is America at its best. And it is the standard by which we measure every President, as well as anyone who wishes to be President. Unfortunately, this President’s policies have not been equal to our best examples of world leadership. And nowhere is this more evident than in the Middle East.”
The Arab Spring was NOT a US plan…it was people doing what they felt was best for them and their country.
I wondered when he would get to Israel and I did not have to wait long…..
“Iran today has never been closer to a nuclear weapons capability. It has never posed a greater danger to our friends, our allies, and to us. And it has never acted less deterred by America, as was made clear last year when Iranian agents plotted to assassinate the Saudi Ambassador in our nation’s capital. And yet, when millions of Iranians took to the streets in June of 2009, when they demanded freedom from a cruel regime that threatens the world, when they cried out, “Are you with us, or are you with them?”—the American President was silent.”
This was a part written by some similar to one of his advisers, the hawk Dan Senor.
“In Iraq, the costly gains made by our troops are being eroded by rising violence, a resurgent Al-Qaeda, the weakening of democracy in Baghdad, and the rising influence of Iran. And yet, America’s ability to influence events for the better in Iraq has been undermined by the abrupt withdrawal of our entire troop presence. The President tried—and failed—to secure a responsible and gradual draw down that would have better secured our gains.
The President has failed to lead in Syria, where more than 30,000 men, women, and children have been massacred by the Assad regime over the past 20 months. Violent extremists are flowing into the fight. Our ally Turkey has been attacked. And the conflict threatens stability in the region.”
Okay Iraq first, the draw down that he so concerned with was a Bush plan….and to me he sounds like he wants to re-invade Iraq. Now Syria….this is a great political prop…but first, the Syrians do not want our direct help and the cross border thing with Turkey has been resolved with the use of the military…but I guess Mitt wants to keep his options open.
The greater tragedy of it all is that we are missing an historic opportunity to win new friends who share our values in the Middle East—friends who are fighting for their own futures against the very same violent extremists, and evil tyrants, and angry mobs who seek to harm us. Unfortunately, so many of these people who could be our friends feel that our President is indifferent to their quest for freedom and dignity. As one Syrian woman put it, “We will not forget that you forgot about us.”
It is time to change course in the Middle East. That course should be organized around these bedrock principles: America must have confidence in our cause, clarity in our purpose and resolve in our might. No friend of America will question our commitment to support them… no enemy that attacks America will question our resolve to defeat them… and no one anywhere, friend or foe, will doubt America’s capability to back up our words.”
Okay you tell me what he was REALLY saying……my opinion is a military action wherever he wants and for whatever lame excuse he can find to use it.
After all his chest thumping he said this…….”I will deepen our critical cooperation with our partners in the Gulf.”
Would these be the same “friends” that crap on women or the same ones that keep all the freedoms that Mitt so loves, from their people?
If there is any doubt what Mitt’s foreign policy would look like then this paragraph should help you understand…….
“And I will roll back President Obama’s deep and arbitrary cuts to our national defense that would devastate our military. I will make the critical defense investments that we need to remain secure. The decisions we make today will determine our ability to protect America tomorrow. The first purpose of a strong military is to prevent war.”
Mitt is using a decades old myth…….the use of the word “strength”……let’s look at a real test of US strength….Cuban Missile Crisis……
What people came to understand about the Cuban missile crisis — that JFK succeeded without giving an inch — implanted itself in policy deliberations and political debate, spoken or unspoken. It’s there now, all these decades later, in worries over making any concessions to Iran over nuclear weapons or to the Taliban over their role in Afghanistan. American leaders don’t like to compromise, and a lingering misunderstanding of those 13 days in October 1962 has a lot to do with it.
In fact, the crisis concluded not with Moscow’s unconditional diplomatic whimper, but with mutual concessions. The Soviets withdrew their missiles from Cuba in return for U.S. pledges not to invade Fidel Castro’s island and to remove Jupiter missiles from Turkey. For reasons that seem clear, the Kennedy clan kept the Jupiter part of the deal secret for nearly two decades and, even then, portrayed it as a trifle. For reasons that remain baffling, the Soviets also kept mum. Scholars like Harvard University’s Graham Allison set forth the truth over the years, but their efforts rarely suffused either public debates or White House meetings on how to stare down America’s foes.
Mitt , as usual, contradicted a lot of his previous positions and sounds like a Bushite on foreign policy……..I guess that is to be expected when the campaign is top heavy with Bush bobbleheads………..when talking to a military school….tell them you will spend unlimited funds….all you numbers wonks……run the numbers and tell us just how he will save the budget with all this spending that Mitt know thinks are good ideas.
This was NOT a foreign policy speech……it was a warning to the world, friends and foes, of what they will get if Mitt is elected……and oh Yeah…..Obama Sucks!
Everybody is talking about the attack and the deaths associated with the action around the US embassy in Libya……….but what was known and when?
Source: London Independent
The killings of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his staff were likely to have been the result of a serious and continuing security breach, The Independent can reveal.
American officials believe the attack was planned, but Chris Stevens had been back in the country only a short while and the details of his visit to Benghazi, where he and his staff died, were meant to be confidential.
The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the “safe house” in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed “safe”.
Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.
According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and “lockdown”, under which movement is severely restricted.
Was the attack a spontaneous action or was there more to it than some outrage over some lame video?
The whole world is watching Syria….and almost every nation in the West has called for Assad to exit stage right…..but he deifies everyone and continues to attack, kill and maim the civilian population……who will broker a deal for this man to leave the country? It should not be the US…personally, I believe it is up to Saudi and Turkey to step in and pressure the guy to leave……
Let’s say Assad finally sees the light and decides to leave…this would be great for the Syrian people and the rest of the world could pat itself on the back……but then there is another question that needs to be asked……who will lead to country?
The Assads have been in power for about 40 years and in that time they have put together a government that is basically coup resistant….a piece written for Reuters….
With the Assad family facing the greatest challenge to its 41-year rule, Syrian security forces killing thousands of protesters and bystanders, and U.S. officials predicting the government will eventually fall, the question of who rules Syria has taken on added urgency.
But there is, in short, no heir apparent. And it is unclear if one will emerge anytime soon.
“The ruling establishment there is so entrenched and it is so self-interested, even if, and this is purely speculative, even if they overthrew Assad, it’s not clear that we would like his successor much more,” said a U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity. “There is no heir apparent.”
Similarly, among the rebels, “there is no opposition figure who has come out and become the face of Syrian resistance,” the official said.
“The Assads have been planning for this for 40 years, for a Sunni uprising against them. And that’s why they’ve poured family members and sectarian members into the top upper ranks. It’s all about loyalty to coup-proof this regime,” said Joshua Landis, a professor at the University of Oklahoma who writes a newsletter on Syrian politics.
I am not saying this butcher should be left in power only that the possibility of a larger civil war could be in the making if and when Assad is forced to leave….with NO clear successor to Assad violence will not subside because of his departure…..
Since not many Americans realize what is going on in Syria I have decided to do what I did with the Libya situation and post a series of the under-reported stories coming out of the region……
I realize that more American were worried about the Oscars than what is happening in Syria……but while they were watching millionaires strut their stuff…..the war drums were beating a little louder…..
I have listened to all the pundits on what needs to be done about Syria……from arming rebels to “no fly zone” to sending troops…..not many on the right are saying diplomatic channels would be in the US best interests….they seem to relish the idea of direct confrontation with Assad……looks like these are the same people that were positive that there were WMDs in Iraq….they were wrong then, they are wrong now!
Regardless of what I believe there is a report of Syrian possible WMDs ……(here we go again)…….
This week, the State Department sent a diplomatic demarche to Syria’s neighbors Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia, warning them about the possibility of Syria’s WMDs crossing their borders and offering U.S. government help in dealing with the problem, three Obama administration officials confirmed to The Cable. For concerned parties both inside and outside the U.S. government, the demarche signifies that the United States is increasingly developing plans to deal with the dangers of a post-Assad Syria — while simultaneously highlighting the lack of planning for how to directly bring about Assad’s downfall.
Syria is believed to have a substantial chemical weapons program, which includes mustard gas and sophisticated nerve agents, such as sarin gas, as well as biological weapons. Syria has also refused IAEA requests to make available facilities that were part of its nuclear weapons program and may still be in operation.
WMDs….they were part of the rhetoric in the 90′s and a major part of the rhetoric in the early days of the 21st century…all i can say is to reiterate what I just wrote….here we go again!
And there are other reports that point to the US becoming more involved in the Syrian situation than we are told……..
The Pentagon is readying for the possibility of intervention in Syria, aiming to halt Syrian President Bashsar Assad‘s violent crackdown on protesters, the newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat reported Saturday, citing a US military offical.
According to the official, the intervention scenario calls for the establishment of a buffer zone on the Turkish border, in order to receive Syrian refugees. The Red Cross would then provide the civilians humanitarian aid, before NATO crews would arrive from Turkey and join the efforts.
The measure would pave the way for the US to declare an aerial blockade on Syria.
The intercession is to be modeled after NATO’s efforts in Kosovo, which brought an end to the Serbian control of the region. NATO’s plan of action included prolonged aerial shelling.
It looks like Americans are ramping up the rhetoric and the backstreet actions to get us more involved…..if so who are we trying to impress with these actions?
Seldom does any of these actions go well and we may well be involved in the overthrow of yet another Arabic country…..I want to know who we are trying to appease with these actions? These type of actions the backdoor tactics and lies have gotten many Americans killed and were done to appease one faction or another…..will America be drawn into yet another stupid decision that will be the death of more our troops?
You tell me!
The world is all a twitter (the feeling, not the website) because Iran has released those two remaining American hikers, but not before they paid for the privileged of coming home and I have purposefully waited a week or so before commenting on the situation….well that time has passed and now I want to comment…..
They have returned to the US and have made their statement in a press conference…..watch and watch it again….there are few questions I want to pose…..http://bit.ly/rbsd6b First there is some background and then move on to the press conference one……
Before I ask myself questions I want to comment on the situation from the start……what we had were three Americans working in Iraq, for a contractor or whoever, that decide to go for a leisurely strolling, in a country at war, along an unmarked border with Iran where they accidentally crossed the border and were captured by the Iranians and imprisoned, about 3 years ago…..
Now if that story is the truth…I feel about them the way I feel about mountain climbers that go unprepared and get snowbound and need rescuing….they are STUPID! You mean they went for a walk along a hostile border without knowing where they were at all times….if so let they rot…the gene pool does not need them!
Before I get the usual amount of hate mail…..I am NOT defending Iran….I do NOT think Iran is a good guy….so save the hate for someone else. Yes, I am glad they are home….but stupid is as stupid does….period!
Now my questions. Who wrote their statements at the press conference? those were not statements that people make that are happy to be free. They said they were beaten……where? I have been beaten and you do not look like you came from a gym afterwards. Why would they make overtly political statements at their welcome party?
My conclusions…..the CIA or State Department wrote their comments. At least one of them more than likely worked for one of our cracker jack intel services. Watch the video again and you tell me.
It is good they are home and we may NEVER know the real story of this saga.
I try to find international stuff for Wednesdays and I found a great one for today…..
After centuries of involvement in the Middle East…..when was the last time you saw anything like this? It will not be on FOX….for sure!
Somebody must be something right…..at least when it comes to the Middle East, huh?