The Mass-Debaters met in Boca Raton to debate for the third and final time….mercifully putting us out of misery…..well, our debate misery….there is still much money to be spent in the battleground states and those poor people should be raving lunatics by election day with all that spin thrown at them….
I learned that Mitt has the same position as the prez for getting out of Afghanistan…..well, basically, he has most of the same positions as the Prez….the one surprise for me was the lack of a drumming on Benghazi, a good choice to not focus on it, but the echo chamber is still going on and on about Benghazi….Mitt and his boyz decided not to on about it……to me Romney look off balanced almost the whole time for the exception for the first 10 minutes or so, when he looked like he was going to be in it for the haul……especially when he gave Obama his props for taking out Osama…taking one of the Prez talking points out of the debate…..good ploy! Romney seemed a bit mild mannered from the bolster that has been present in the campaign stops…..
Obama was calm and collected…….but his most newsworthy quote for the next several days will be his comment on the number of horses and bayonets in the military…….Obama spent a good percentage of his answers pointing to the ever changing positions the Romney campaign has held on foreign policy…
All in all, the Prez won this debate, my opinion…..but I am sure that others will see it differently……..I was expecting no different……the Prez had an advantage in a foreign policy simply because of his office…..Romney once again, in the last two weeks, has tacked to the middle….but is it enough or did he wait a bit too long, two weeks before the election, to make this course change?
Since this is the last debate of 2012 I want to add a few notes……as I have always said….these debates were about optics not substance….they are too rehearsed! They have not been real debates but rather a short TV program….there needs to be a serious look at the formats and the whole presidential debate system…it needs to be updated.
Once again, it was the optics that made your decision on who won……..and of course they, meaning the media, has assembled “undecideds”…..and once again it was all theater….if there are any “undecideds” at this point then them are just looking for some attention….but idf they are truly “undecided” then just make sure that they have a coin in their pocket on election……. and for God sake….Do NOT ask them if they prefer paper or plastic!
In Saner Thought 
I’ve heard many left-wingers say that, but I’m not sure I accept it. Their views on Iraq are quite different; their views on the number of troops in Afghanistan are quite different; their approach to Russia is quite different; their approach to Israel is quite different; and Romney’s approach to Benghazi would have been quite different. There are nuances to be considered.
Not discussing it certainly worked in Obama’s favor, but not Romney’s. I felt Romney should have focused more on it.
To me, Romney looked confident, calm, and presidential. Obama, on the other hand, came off as petty, spiteful, and unprofessional.
What debate were you watching? Obama has since been described as many things in last night’s debate, but calm and collected was not one of them. He continually attacked, attacked, attacked. That is not my idea of “calm” or “collected.”
Obama was forceful last night, to be certain. But a forceful defense of failure is still failure.
Iran is closer to a nuclear bomb;
Egypt has been taken over by radicals that hate women, Christians, and America;
The Syrian government is slaughtering its own citizens;
Nuclear-armed Pakistan is falling apart;
Israel and Palestine haven’t engaged in peace talks in two-years;
Russia is trying to revive a Cold War mentality;
China is still engaging in unfair trade practices;
al-Qaeda is still killing American citizens
So in what way was Obama’s performance of defending failure a success?
But yet when Mitt attack attack it was somehow a good thing….like I said….YOUR guy won! No matter your choice…YOUR guy won! It isx all optics….and that was not a debate…by definition it was not a debate…
Lobotero,
Romney criticized the President; Obama criticized the man. There is a difference.
Terrance, it still was not a debate….criticism is a campaign stump speech, not a debate….neither4 man debated they just reiterated their stump…..
I loved your comments about the “undecideds” at this point. Honestly, are there any left? I’m pretty sure the ones who intend to vote have already made up their minds.
Spinny, their minds were made up[ months ago….now they are just seeking attention…
Thanx Spinny
That closing paragraph is a classic!
Hi Frank and thanx for the visits…hope see you more often…….I have my moments and I am really disappointed at the media’s involvement in this election……
Take it back to the rounds of debates during the GOP primaries … I was saying, have an event without the top 2 to give the others a chance to talk!
Not bad…..I like it……I appreciate anything that would educate the voter……so far we have debates that border on a stump speech and a campaign ad……but as long as the main purpose of any debate is optics they will remain an exercise in absurdity…
No more ask about Libya, and then get an answer about the economy. Simply cut them off!
That is the one I was going to emphasize also……force the asshats to be courteous….
Obama showed his true colors… and it wasn’t a good thing!
Funny that is not what you said in the first debate when Mitt was all aggressive…..why is that?