Solution In Search Of A Problem
Posted: 24 July 2012 Filed under: Elections, Observations, Politics, Society | Tags: 2012 Elections, Postaday 2012, Voting Rights 15 Comments »We have lots of politicians with their ideas for solutions to many of our problems…like the deficit, the budget, immigration, health care and even taxation….but there is one solution that has no ‘real’ problem…..and that is the problem of voter fraud.
I will admit that if there is truly a problem with voter fraud then yes it needs to be fixed…..the problem is that, as I stated before, it is a solution in search of a problem…..for instance, Texas law suit to uphold their voter thingy……out of the 39 million votes cast in 2008…there were 70 allegations of voter fraud and out of those only 5 cases were prosecutable……that percentage is so low that it is almost not worth the brain power to figure it out……but yet, state after state has passed laws to help suppress voter fraud….but is there a need of these actions?
From the Brennan Center For Justice……..Download the PDF
Is the alleged problem explained by undue reliance on faulty lists or a flawed list-matching process? Claims of voter fraud are often premised on attempts to compare lists of voters to lists of people ineligible to vote. However, the process of matching information from list to list is full of pitfalls. The following questions will reveal some of the more common ways in which fraud claims based on matching may be bogus.
Are the underlying lists accurate? Large databases are vulnerable to human error and other inaccuracies. For example, the Social Security Administration’s “Master Death Index,” often used to identify voters who are allegedly deceased, is known to have an error rate of more than 3%.[1] Such errors are compounded over time: the leading expert on list-matching for the U.S. Bureau of the Census estimates that in a large California employment database, “[o]ver a period of twenty years, the records [associated] with each individual can expect to contain at least two errors where the [Social Security Number] has been mis-keyed or transcribed improperly.”
Does the proposed policy actually solve the problem? Some of those who support photo identification requirements indiscriminately cite examples of “fraud,” whether the cited anecdotes can be remedied by photo identification or not. In Wisconsin in 2005, for example, supporters of a restrictive identification requirement pointed repeatedly to voting by allegedly ineligible persons with convictions – even though requiring restrictive ID would not prevent voting by persons who are rendered ineligible by a conviction.[24]
Would the alleged problem be solved by proper implementation of existing federal law? Many of the more commonly proffered allegations of voter fraud involve concerns that should be resolved by existing federal law, once new statewide voter registration databases have been fully implemented. The Help America Vote Act of 2002 (“HAVA”) imposes an identification requirement on first-time voters who have registered by mail, as long as their registration information has not been externally validated.[27] It also requires states to purge voters confirmed as deceased from the rolls, and to coordinate voter registration lists with computerized sources regarding the voting rights status of persons who have been convicted of felonies.[28] In addition to the other list maintenance required by HAVA, these three simple requirements should eventually eliminate any significant threat caused by the most commonly cited sources of alleged voter fraud.
Does the proposed policy create more problems than it solves? Legitimate cases of fraud that could be addressed by a photo identification requirement are proven to occur approximately as often as Americans are struck and killed by lightning.[29] Given the frequency of the problem, proposed solutions may be more harmful than helpful. Restrictive photo identification requirements, for example, will likely have an impact that far exceeds the negligible rate of voter fraud. Up to 10% of the voting-age population does not have state-issued photo identification.[30]This rate is disproportionately higher among minorities, low-income populations, youth, and the elderly. A recent Wisconsin study, for example, found that 78% of black men aged 18-24 had no valid driver’s license.[31]
Is there truly a voter fraud problem? Or could this be a political gimmick?
Fraud by individual voters is both irrational and extremely rare. Most citizens who take the time to vote offer their legitimate signatures and sworn oaths with the gravitas that this hard-won civic right deserves. Even for the few who view voting merely as a means to an end, however, voter fraud is a singularly foolish way to attempt to win an election. Each act of voter fraud risks five years in prison and a $10,000 fine – but yields at most one incremental vote. The single vote is simply not worth the price.
Because voter fraud is essentially irrational, it is not surprising that no credible evidence suggests a voter fraud epidemic. There is no documented wave or trend of individuals voting multiple times, voting as someone else, or voting despite knowing that they are ineligible. Indeed, evidence from the microscopically scrutinized 2004 gubernatorial election in Washington State actually reveals just the opposite: though voter fraud does happen, it happens approximately 0.0009% of the time. The similarly closely-analyzed 2004 election in Ohio revealed a voter fraud rate of 0.00004%. National Weather Service data shows that Americans are struck and killed by lightning about as often.
Many vivid anecdotes of purported voter fraud have been proven false or do not demonstrate fraud. Although there are a few scattered instances of real voter fraud, many of the vivid anecdotes cited in accounts of voter fraud have been proven false or vastly overstated. In Missouri in 2000, for example, the Secretary of State claimed that 79 voters were registered with addresses at vacant lots, but subsequent investigation revealed that the lots in question actually housed valid and legitimate residences. Similarly, a 1995 investigation into votes allegedly cast in Baltimore by deceased voters and those with disenfranchising felony convictions revealed that the voters in question were both alive and felony-free.
Many of the inaccurate claims result from lists of voters compared to other lists – of deceased individuals, persons with felony convictions, voters in other states, etc. These attempts to match information often yield predictable errors. In Florida in 2000, a list of purged voters later became notorious when it was discovered that the “matching” process captured eligible voters with names similar to – but decidedly different from – the names of persons with felony convictions, sometimes in other states entirely. A 2005 attempt to identify supposed double voters in New Jersey mistakenly accused people with similar names but whose middle names or suffixes were clearly different, such as “J.T. Kearns, Jr.” and “J.T. Kearns, Sr.,” of being the same person. Even when names and birthdates match across lists, that does not mean there was voter fraud. Elementary statistics students are often surprised to learn that it is more likely than not that among just 23 individuals, two will share a birthday. Similar statistics show that for most reasonably common names, it is extremely likely that at least two people with the same name in a state will share the same date of birth. The ostensible “matches” may not represent the same person at all.
Other allegations of fraudulent voting often turn out to be the result of common clerical errors, incomplete information, or faulty assumptions. Most allegations of voter fraud simply evaporate when more rigorous analysis is conducted.
Voter fraud is often conflated with other forms of election misconduct. It is extremely rare for individuals to vote multiple times, vote as someone else, or vote despite knowing that they are ineligible. These rare occurrences, however, are often conflated with other forms of election irregularities or misconduct, under the misleading and overbroad label of “voter fraud.u201D Some of these other irregularities result from honest mistakes by election officials or voters, such20as confusion as to whether a particular person is actually eligible to vote. Some irregularities result from technological glitches, whether sinister or benign: for example, voting machines may record inaccurate tallies. And some involve fraud or intentional misconduct perpetrated by actors other than individual voters: for example, flyers may spread misinformation about the proper locations or procedures for voting; thugs may be dispatched to intimidate voters at the polls; missing ballot boxes may mysteriously reappear. These more common forms of misconduct are simply not addressed by the supposed “anti-fraud” measures generally proposed.
Raising the unsubstantiated specter of mass voter fraud suits a particular policy agenda. Voter fraud is most often invoked as a substantial problem in order to justify particular election policies. Chief among these is the proposal that individuals be required to show photo ID in order to vote – a policy that disenfranchises up to 10% of eligible citizens. But the only misconduct that photo ID addresses is the kind of voter fraud that happens as infrequently as death by lightning. Therefore, it suits those who prefer photo ID as a policy to lump as much misconduct in with “voter fraud” as possible, to create the impression that the problem is far more significant than it actually is. Moreover, to the extent photo ID is suggested as a solution to the perception that voter fraud occurs, it behooves those who prefer photo ID to reinforce the unsubstantiated perception that voter fraud exists.
Claims of voter fraud should be carefully tested before they become the basis for action. Researchers, reporters, public figures, and policymakers confronted with claims of potential fraud should carefully examine these claims before calling for action. Do the claims depend on matching information from one list to another? Is the matching process accurate? Does a match indicate an illegal vote, or is there a more plausible explanation? Is corroborating evidence available? If there actually appears to be a problem, can it be addressed by existing practices, or is a new solution necessary? If so, will the solution proposed – usually either a mass purge or photo identification – really solve the problem? Is the solution sufficiently burdensome that it becomes a greater problem than the problem itself? These basic questions are crucially important to evaluating claims of voter fraud, but are all too often unasked and unanswered.
In my opinion, there is NO evidence of the massive amounts of voter fraud that some are claiming….
But to my conserv friends, do not fret! Is will most likely go to SCOTUS and Roberts will most likely redeem himself with the conserv movement…..and then they can all make nice again and he will once again become the hero of the Constitution that all would like to think of him…..
Just thinking out loud!
Lobotero,
We both know that voter fraud occurs. Whether it occurs at an alarming rate is quite besides the point, since, in my estimation, one act of voter fraud is one too many. Why not institute preventative measures rather than take the chance that an election may be unfairly won? Because if the 2000 election taught us anything, it’s that a few votes matter greatly.
But I know, I know. In liberal land, requiring voters to produce valid forms of identification is raaaaaaaacist.
Terrance…..just it does occur and it is not a major problem as all studies have shown…..I mean why not work on bills and such that actually beneficial to the people of the state/country? When 39 million votes are cast and 5 fraud cases go to court…it is NOT a problem….since we have Congress people with the IQ of spaetzel and we do not demand they have a working kmnowledge of the gears of government why then is the demanding the voters jump through hoops to vote?
By the same logic, since a GOP official in Indiana, I believe, was found guilty of voter fraud…should we infer that all the GOP is guilty….of course NOT! We should hold the same civility to ALL voters….there will be fraud, but again, it is NOT a massive problem.
And as far as the racist part goes…..that is your words…NOT mine….
Lobotero,
Explain to me why preventative measures shouldn’t be taken? Why should we wait for an election to be won unfairly before we act? Why must an election akin to one held in a third-world country happen here before we act? And then the thought that, perhaps, some of our elections have been won unfairly and unknowingly is mortifying to anyone who loves democracy.
As I said, the 2000 election proves beyond all doubt that even the smallest amount of voter fraud can have an impact on the outcome of an election.
“Jump through hoops”? Photo ID is required to get on a plane, to buy alcohol, tabacco, violent movies, video games, to apply for welfare, and to see liberals like President Obama speak. So why shouldn’t something considerably more important like voting have the same requirement?
John Barron, who commented on my post, seems to believe that liberals have an insatiable desire to treat minorities like pets that need to be cared for, which is why they oppose voter ID laws. Liberals think they are either too stupid or too lazy to obtain the necessary documents.
I think that could be part of it, but I also think liberals know that blacks and Hispanics are least likely to have identification and simply don’t want to lose those votes come election day.
We both know there is no good reason to oppose such laws.
Terrance, Again I do not see this as a problem that needs the attention now….if we had 100,000 fraud cases then yes it needs to be addressed….geez I do not want to get off topic for it will turn into a diatribe of partisan rhetoric……if we will get rid of the electoral college then I would be all for the measure for in my opinion, the popular vote counts little in the selection (please this is an example and if dispute is warranted then check out my posts on the subject)……
I am sure they do not want to lose the votes just like the conservs do not want to lose the support of their benefactors…..I go back to the title…it is a “solution in search of a problem”……and we both know that it is NOt a problem….it is a distraction to keep from doing what needs to be done…..repair the economy….if they want to take this up after that is accomplished then that would be the time…not in a shitty economy just before an election…..no matter who wins for whatever reason…the economy will stay in the crapper. That should be the ONLY concern and not some political grandstanding on either side of this issue…..
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Thanx….
Im glad you brought this subject up. We always hear that Americans are lazy and do not exercise their right to vote, and whether or not there is a ton of fraud, jump thru hoops was a good description. As far as it being a solution looking for a problem, think sharia law.
I guess its damned if you do, damned if you dont
Lobotero,
Yet again you fail to answer my question: What is wrong with taking preventative measures? You won’t answer the question because you don’t have an answer. Nobody on your side of the issue has a suitable answer because one doesn’t exist.
This is meaningless noise. What does the electoral college have to do with anything? A margin of a few thousand votes separated Bush and Gore in Florida, which was required for either one of them to win the electoral college. The popular vote in each state decides, for the most part, the electoral college, and you know this.
Meaningless noise? You used the 2000 election as part of your comment…if memory serves Bush got a few more electoral votes and Gore got a few thousand more popular votes and yet SCOTUS gave the election to Bush…..the popular vote meant nothing. I do not give meaningless noise….
I thought I answered your question….I have NO I repeat NO problem with this….but only after we fix the real problem…..this does absolutely NOTHING to do that…..and No one on your side has a good reason for it either…then why go through this exercise? Could it be the election?
Then why is this more important than the economy? Why is every state trying this not working on jobs for their residents?
I do not appreciate the diversion from the problem that both sides are playing with this subject. I want to see the people get a job and a stable life and then worry about other stuff….if that is meaningless noise…then I will accept that!
Lob,
What is wrong with you? The popular vote in Florida is responsible for Bush getting more electoral votes – and you know that!
No, you didn’t answer the question. I asked, quite simply, why we can’t put in place PREVENTATIVE MEASURES. I say PREVENTATIVE because I’m playing along with your false assertion that voter fraud isn’t a problem.
And what do you mean nobody on my side has a good reason? How about protecting the damn integrity of our elections!?!?! That seems like a pretty damn good reason to me.
Why can’t our elected officials accomplish more than one thing at a time? You think passing a voter ID law is magically preventing them for focusing on jobs? Come on!
But wait! You come on! There has been NOTHING done about jobs…blame it on whatever floats your boat. It has been ALL rhetoric, nothing of substance and from both sides…at least I can see the problem…we can play this diatribe for diatribe and that is what politicians want….that is both flavors.
You think that whatever I write is from a false premise….more power to you….if there is so much integrity how can politicians negate the will of the people with impunity?
If 2000 was a clear cut as you seem to think…and I do not doubt that you firmly believe that….that why was it SCOTUS that had to decide the winner?
Apparently you want a win for your effort…..there is NO problem with preventive measures in voter ID or any thing else that comes to mind……however I will not bow to the miss informed info that this somehow will protect the American voting issue.
Lob,
I am aware that nothing has been done about the stubborn unemployment rate. But what do you expect? You have a liberal president that doesn’t want to work with Republicans, and fringe Tea Parties that don’t want to work with a liberal president. They are too far apart ideologically to come to any sort of agreement.
SCOTUS decided whether or not the recount should be stopped. The very fact that recounts were in Gore’s favor, then Bush’s, then Gore’s, then Bush’s prove that a few votes matter.
I don’t understand what nefarious little purpose you think voter ID laws are going to serve. Quite simply, they will protect the integrity of our elections, whether a problem currently exists or not. The point is that our elections should have integrity and we should do everything to ensure that is so. However, we do have evidence that voter fraud has taken place in Philadelphia as recently as this year. And what do Philadelphia liberals do? Put their fingers in their ears and sing, “La-La-La! I don’t hear you!”
It’s nothing short of treason…
Never fear our debate will be a moot point…..this will most likely go to SCOTUS and Roberts will redeem himself in the eyes of conservs that feel he is the traitor……..
As far as integrity goes…..where is the integrity when the will of the people is usurped by government?
Lob,
I’m all about the “Don’t Tread On Me” stuff. I don’t abide by government ignoring the will of the people, but the place to change that is in the voting booth. Unless it gets too bad – and then you know what the solution is.
Terrance, like you I see it as “treasonous” if a government prevents one qualified person from votiung, for whatever reason then the integrity is gone…..I agree there will be only one solution….but will the people have the guts for real change or will they settle like we have in the past?